Very slow responding BIOS

rainman999 · 13th Oct 2005, 02:21 AM

Hi

I'm new here so please excuse me if I make any mistakes.

After I added a 4 point powered USB hub by BIOS went on a go slow, even in the BIOS changing area; I'd click on a different section and it would take about 15 seconds to respond, yet if I remove the hub (I need it) everything returns to normal.

I looked in the BIOS and the only setting I could find that mentions USB is for the keyboard, no mention of a USB controller or anything like that, surely there must be something I can adjust to make it go back to its normal speedy self?

I've added my computer information below, it's a bit long winded, but I didn't know what was needed, it is from Everest.

Cheers.
Paul.

my system is:
Computer Gateway 450SP
Computer Type Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 4
Internet Explorer 6.0.2800.1106 (IE 6.0 SP1)
DirectX 4.09.00.0900 (DirectX 9.0)
Computer Name HOME-ULEY
User Name Paul Antoni Evans
SMTP E-mail Address paulevans999@aol.com
Logon Domain HOME-ULEY
Date / Time 2005-10-10 / 22:16

Motherboard
CPU Type Intel Pentium III, 450 MHz (4.5 x 100)
Motherboard Name Intel Warm Springs WS440BX (1 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM)
Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440BX
System Memory 384 MB (SDRAM)
BIOS Type Phoenix (04/22/99)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display
Video Adapter Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro (32 MB)
3D Accelerator ATI Rage128 Pro
Monitor HP D2843 M900 (73873817615)

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Creative SB PCI128 (Ensoniq ES1371) Sound Card

Storage
IDE Controller Intel(r) 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive IOMEGA ZIP 100
Disk Drive ST380021A (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
Optical Drive PHILIPS DVDR1628P1
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions
C: (NTFS) 36789 MB (31116 MB free)
E: (NTFS) 39527 MB (13324 MB free)

Input
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse PS/2 Compatible Mouse

Network
Network Adapter GlobeSpan USB ADSL LAN Modem (169.254.248.24)
Network Adapter WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface (172.212.69.195)

Peripherals
Printer Epson Stylus COLOR 440 ESC/P 2
Printer Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
USB1 Controller Intel 82371AB/EB PIIX4 - USB Host Controller
USB Device Generic USB Hub
USB Device GlobeSpan USB ADSL LAN Modem
USB Device MUSTEK 1248UB
USB Device Polar USB Interface

************************************************** ***
Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 4W4SB0X0.15A.0013.P08.9904221542
Motherboard Name Intel Warm Springs WS440BX

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel GTL+
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 100 MHz
Effective Clock 100 MHz
Bandwidth 800 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type SDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 100 MHz
Effective Clock 100 MHz
Bandwidth 800 MB/s

Motherboard Physical Info
CPU Sockets/Slots 1
Expansion Slots 1 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP
RAM Slots 3 DIMM
Form Factor ATX
Motherboard Size 200 mm x 300 mm
Motherboard Chipset i440BX
************************************************** ***
Memory Description
Micron Tech. 8LSDT1664AG-10EE1
Micron Tech. 8LSDT1664AG-10EE1
Toshiba THMY6416E1CEG-80

************************************************** ***
Chipset Properties
Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440BX
In-Order Queue Depth 4

North Bridge Properties
North Bridge Intel 82443BX
Revision / Stepping 03 / C1
Package Type 492 Pin BGA
Package Size 3.5 cm x 3.5 cm
Core Voltage 3.3 V

South Bridge Properties
South Bridge Intel 82371EB PIIX4E
Revision / Stepping 02 / A0
Package Type 324 Pin mBGA
Package Size 2.7 cm x 2.7 cm
Core Voltage 3.3 V

Memory Timings
CAS Latency (CL) 2T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 2T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 2T

Memory Slots
DRAM Slot #1 128 MB (SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 128 MB (SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #3 128 MB (SDRAM)

AGP Properties
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 2x
Fast-Write Not Supported
Side Band Addressing Supported, Enabled

************************************************** ***

Field Value
BIOS Properties
BIOS Type Phoenix
System BIOS Date 04/22/99
Video BIOS Date 00/02/03

Adrian Wong · 13th Oct 2005, 02:29 AM

Hmm.. Is your keyboard a USB keyboard? And did you connect it to your powered USB hub?

rainman999 · 13th Oct 2005, 02:36 AM

No my keyboard is not USB
Paul

I tried to get an update for my BIOS from http://www.esupport.com/global/
but although I sent "repeated" requests via the "BIOS Agent" I never heard from them, and unfortunately I do not know where else I can get an update from, or even if that would help.

One thing I never mentioned, when the computer is booting up the lights on the hub go on and off repeatedly, and at the end of the boot before windows starts the one beep lasts longer than normal. After Windows boots up though everything seems to work alright!

Cheers
Paul.

Adrian Wong · 13th Oct 2005, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainman999

No my keyboard is not USB
Paul

I tried to get an update for my BIOS from http://www.esupport.com/global/
but although I sent "repeated" requests via the "BIOS Agent" I never heard from them, and unfortunately I do not know where else I can get an update from, or even if that would help.

One thing I never mentioned, when the computer is booting up the lights on the hub go on and off repeatedly, and at the end of the boot before windows starts the one beep lasts longer than normal. After Windows boots up though everything seems to work alright!

Cheers
Paul.

Hmm.. Your BIOS is pretty old actually.

Any luck getting a BIOS update from Gateway??

rainman999 · 13th Oct 2005, 05:00 AM

Will try the gateway site, let you know.

Paul.

rainman999 · 18th Oct 2005, 02:34 AM

Sorry for the long delay in replying,I finally got up the nerve

to update my BIOS, I still have the same problem though, when the USB hub is attached the BIOS goes in slow motion.

Some things in the document with the BIOS confused me though. I've copied it below. Basically it says both 800 and 1200MHz speeds for a new processor, but the 1200MHz says view! Does that mean I can go to somewhere like eBay and get any processor as long as it is 800 or 1200MHz and swap it for my 450 processor? Hope that isn't a dumb question.

Many thanks in advance.
Paul.
Features/Errata Fixed In This Release
P14-0019
• Correct W98 Device Manager warning on PS/2 mouse when only mouse present is USB.
NOTE: only works when Legacy USB is disabled.
• Date stamp set to 11/04/99 to prevent ACPI OS install.
P13-0018
• Change ACPI DSDT and RSDT OEM_REVISION fields from 0 to 1 for W2K Ready.
• Change \_PFAN._STA 0xFF return value to 0x01 for W2K Ready.
• Revise processor updates for 681.
• Add processor update for 683.
• Correct “A” and “E” processor suffix display.
• Display processor speed up to 1200MHz.
• Date stamp set to 11/03/99 to prevent ACPI OS install.
P12-0017
• Corrected cache autosize bug introduced in P11.
• Date stamp set to 11/02/99 to prevent ACPI OS install.
P11-0016
• Installed latest processor updates.
• Added support for 68x-class processors.
• Added up to 800MHz processor speed.
• Date stamp set to 11/01/99 to prevent ACPI OS install.
P10-0015
• Installed latest Processor BIOS updates.
• Removed HDD boot sector protection.
P09-0014
• Installed latest Processor BIOS updates.
• Installed HDD boot sector protection, with fix to prevent it from being automatically enabled whenever the supervisor password is set.
• Fixed PSN BEL Test failure.
P08-0013
• Fix for WHQL Manual USB test.
• 550MHz Pentium III Support, with 673 processor update
• Fix for L2 Cache not being initialized at 550MHz
• AGP Aperture Size fix
• Fix for customer specific PCI card
• Added support for disabling the User logo via DMI switch
• Added DMI code for automated reporting of max CPU speed

P07-0012
• Added new processor update.
Stepping CPUID Update Rev
B1 653 01
• Added ability to enable/disable the processor serial number feature.
P06-0009
• Added Pentium III code to DMI
• Added fix for HCT Unreported memory failure
• Changed MFG Default setting for ECC Event logging

Adrian Wong · 19th Oct 2005, 12:43 AM

Well you will have to get an Intel Celeron or Pentium III processor up to 800MHz, if what they say is correct...

rainman999 · 19th Oct 2005, 01:55 AM

Thanks for that

, I'm going to see if they have any 800MHZ processors left.

Any clues as to why my BIOS is still going slow even after the BIOS update?

Cheers.
Paul.

Adrian Wong · 19th Oct 2005, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainman999

Thanks for that

, I'm going to see if they have any 800MHZ processors left.

Any clues as to why my BIOS is still going slow even after the BIOS update?

Cheers.
Paul.

That's a very good question. I wonder how the USB ports affect the display of the BIOS screens...

Not related at all to USB... but try enabling Video BIOS Shadow...

Oh.. wait, do you see any BIOS option regarding APIC (not ACPI)?

rainman999 · 20th Oct 2005, 01:38 AM

I've looked through every place I can find in the BIOS and there is no APIC settings at all. I hate to seem dense but if it's not related at all to USB, what is it?

Thank you.
Paul.

13th Oct 2005, 02:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
rainman999 Newbie Join Date: 13 Oct 2005 Location: Uley Posts: 9 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Very slow responding BIOS Hi I'm new here so please excuse me if I make any mistakes. After I added a 4 point powered USB hub by BIOS went on a go slow, even in the BIOS changing area; I'd click on a different section and it would take about 15 seconds to respond, yet if I remove the hub (I need it) everything returns to normal. I looked in the BIOS and the only setting I could find that mentions USB is for the keyboard, no mention of a USB controller or anything like that, surely there must be something I can adjust to make it go back to its normal speedy self? I've added my computer information below, it's a bit long winded, but I didn't know what was needed, it is from Everest. Cheers. Paul. my system is: Computer Gateway 450SP Computer Type Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC Operating System Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional OS Service Pack Service Pack 4 Internet Explorer 6.0.2800.1106 (IE 6.0 SP1) DirectX 4.09.00.0900 (DirectX 9.0) Computer Name HOME-ULEY User Name Paul Antoni Evans SMTP E-mail Address paulevans999@aol.com Logon Domain HOME-ULEY Date / Time 2005-10-10 / 22:16 Motherboard CPU Type Intel Pentium III, 450 MHz (4.5 x 100) Motherboard Name Intel Warm Springs WS440BX (1 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM) Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440BX System Memory 384 MB (SDRAM) BIOS Type Phoenix (04/22/99) Communication Port Communications Port (COM1) Communication Port Communications Port (COM2) Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1) Display Video Adapter Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro (32 MB) 3D Accelerator ATI Rage128 Pro Monitor HP D2843 M900 (73873817615) Multimedia Audio Adapter Creative SB PCI128 (Ensoniq ES1371) Sound Card Storage IDE Controller Intel(r) 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive Disk Drive IOMEGA ZIP 100 Disk Drive ST380021A (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100) Optical Drive PHILIPS DVDR1628P1 SMART Hard Disks Status OK Partitions C: (NTFS) 36789 MB (31116 MB free) E: (NTFS) 39527 MB (13324 MB free) Input Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard Mouse PS/2 Compatible Mouse Network Network Adapter GlobeSpan USB ADSL LAN Modem (169.254.248.24) Network Adapter WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface (172.212.69.195) Peripherals Printer Epson Stylus COLOR 440 ESC/P 2 Printer Microsoft Office Document Image Writer USB1 Controller Intel 82371AB/EB PIIX4 - USB Host Controller USB Device Generic USB Hub USB Device GlobeSpan USB ADSL LAN Modem USB Device MUSTEK 1248UB USB Device Polar USB Interface ************************************************ * Motherboard Properties Motherboard ID 4W4SB0X0.15A.0013.P08.9904221542 Motherboard Name Intel Warm Springs WS440BX Front Side Bus Properties Bus Type Intel GTL+ Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 100 MHz Effective Clock 100 MHz Bandwidth 800 MB/s Memory Bus Properties Bus Type SDR SDRAM Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 100 MHz Effective Clock 100 MHz Bandwidth 800 MB/s Motherboard Physical Info CPU Sockets/Slots 1 Expansion Slots 1 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP RAM Slots 3 DIMM Form Factor ATX Motherboard Size 200 mm x 300 mm Motherboard Chipset i440BX ************************************************ * Memory Description Micron Tech. 8LSDT1664AG-10EE1 Micron Tech. 8LSDT1664AG-10EE1 Toshiba THMY6416E1CEG-80 ************************************************ * Chipset Properties Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440BX In-Order Queue Depth 4 North Bridge Properties North Bridge Intel 82443BX Revision / Stepping 03 / C1 Package Type 492 Pin BGA Package Size 3.5 cm x 3.5 cm Core Voltage 3.3 V South Bridge Properties South Bridge Intel 82371EB PIIX4E Revision / Stepping 02 / A0 Package Type 324 Pin mBGA Package Size 2.7 cm x 2.7 cm Core Voltage 3.3 V Memory Timings CAS Latency (CL) 2T RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 2T RAS Precharge (tRP) 2T Memory Slots DRAM Slot #1 128 MB (SDRAM) DRAM Slot #2 128 MB (SDRAM) DRAM Slot #3 128 MB (SDRAM) AGP Properties AGP Version 1.00 AGP Status Enabled AGP Aperture Size 64 MB Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x Current AGP Speed 2x Fast-Write Not Supported Side Band Addressing Supported, Enabled ************************************************ * Field Value BIOS Properties BIOS Type Phoenix System BIOS Date 04/22/99 Video BIOS Date 00/02/03

13th Oct 2005, 02:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
Adrian Wong Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my ASUS F8V notebook! Posts: 32,304 Reputation: 3574 Rep Power: 75	Hmm.. Is your keyboard a USB keyboard? And did you connect it to your powered USB hub? __________________ Dr. Adrian Wong Tech ARP \| Blog @ Tech ARP \| The Free Trade Zone DYKT : The only offshore account I have is at the sand bank? We need PROGRAMMERS and TECHNICAL WRITERS! Contact us if you are a hot shot programmer or technical writer! My items for sale : 50x SD Card \| Memory Stick PRO \| Cyclone Energy Saver \| Seiko SS watch \| Tiger/Carlsberg beer jugs \| Travel Speakers \| Motorola V600 \| Nokia N90 SOLD! \| New Lowepro Mini Trekker AW Other items for sale @ the FTZ : Zalman CNPS9500 LED @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7700 Cu @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7000 Cu @ $20 \| Swarovski bracelet watches \| Dell 17" LCD \| Hi-Fi speakers \| English DIVX movies \| HP LaserJet toners! \| Office chairs

13th Oct 2005, 02:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
rainman999 Newbie Join Date: 13 Oct 2005 Location: Uley Posts: 9 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	More info No my keyboard is not USB Paul I tried to get an update for my BIOS from http://www.esupport.com/global/ but although I sent "repeated" requests via the "BIOS Agent" I never heard from them, and unfortunately I do not know where else I can get an update from, or even if that would help. One thing I never mentioned, when the computer is booting up the lights on the hub go on and off repeatedly, and at the end of the boot before windows starts the one beep lasts longer than normal. After Windows boots up though everything seems to work alright! Cheers Paul. Last edited by rainman999 : 13th Oct 2005 at 02:51 AM. Reason: Add information

18th Oct 2005, 02:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
rainman999 Newbie Join Date: 13 Oct 2005 Location: Uley Posts: 9 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Very Slow Responding BIOS Sorry for the long delay in replying,I finally got up the nerve to update my BIOS, I still have the same problem though, when the USB hub is attached the BIOS goes in slow motion. Some things in the document with the BIOS confused me though. I've copied it below. Basically it says both 800 and 1200MHz speeds for a new processor, but the 1200MHz says view! Does that mean I can go to somewhere like eBay and get any processor as long as it is 800 or 1200MHz and swap it for my 450 processor? Hope that isn't a dumb question. Many thanks in advance. Paul. Features/Errata Fixed In This Release P14-0019 • Correct W98 Device Manager warning on PS/2 mouse when only mouse present is USB. NOTE: only works when Legacy USB is disabled. • Date stamp set to 11/04/99 to prevent ACPI OS install. P13-0018 • Change ACPI DSDT and RSDT OEM_REVISION fields from 0 to 1 for W2K Ready. • Change \_PFAN._STA 0xFF return value to 0x01 for W2K Ready. • Revise processor updates for 681. • Add processor update for 683. • Correct “A” and “E” processor suffix display. • Display processor speed up to 1200MHz. • Date stamp set to 11/03/99 to prevent ACPI OS install. P12-0017 • Corrected cache autosize bug introduced in P11. • Date stamp set to 11/02/99 to prevent ACPI OS install. P11-0016 • Installed latest processor updates. • Added support for 68x-class processors. • Added up to 800MHz processor speed. • Date stamp set to 11/01/99 to prevent ACPI OS install. P10-0015 • Installed latest Processor BIOS updates. • Removed HDD boot sector protection. P09-0014 • Installed latest Processor BIOS updates. • Installed HDD boot sector protection, with fix to prevent it from being automatically enabled whenever the supervisor password is set. • Fixed PSN BEL Test failure. P08-0013 • Fix for WHQL Manual USB test. • 550MHz Pentium III Support, with 673 processor update • Fix for L2 Cache not being initialized at 550MHz • AGP Aperture Size fix • Fix for customer specific PCI card • Added support for disabling the User logo via DMI switch • Added DMI code for automated reporting of max CPU speed P07-0012 • Added new processor update. Stepping CPUID Update Rev B1 653 01 • Added ability to enable/disable the processor serial number feature. P06-0009 • Added Pentium III code to DMI • Added fix for HCT Unreported memory failure • Changed MFG Default setting for ECC Event logging

19th Oct 2005, 12:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
Adrian Wong Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my ASUS F8V notebook! Posts: 32,304 Reputation: 3574 Rep Power: 75	Well you will have to get an Intel Celeron or Pentium III processor up to 800MHz, if what they say is correct... __________________ Dr. Adrian Wong Tech ARP \| Blog @ Tech ARP \| The Free Trade Zone DYKT : The only offshore account I have is at the sand bank? We need PROGRAMMERS and TECHNICAL WRITERS! Contact us if you are a hot shot programmer or technical writer! My items for sale : 50x SD Card \| Memory Stick PRO \| Cyclone Energy Saver \| Seiko SS watch \| Tiger/Carlsberg beer jugs \| Travel Speakers \| Motorola V600 \| Nokia N90 SOLD! \| New Lowepro Mini Trekker AW Other items for sale @ the FTZ : Zalman CNPS9500 LED @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7700 Cu @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7000 Cu @ $20 \| Swarovski bracelet watches \| Dell 17" LCD \| Hi-Fi speakers \| English DIVX movies \| HP LaserJet toners! \| Office chairs

13th Oct 2005, 05:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
rainman999 Newbie Join Date: 13 Oct 2005 Location: Uley Posts: 9 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Will try the gateway site, let you know. Paul.

19th Oct 2005, 01:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
rainman999 Newbie Join Date: 13 Oct 2005 Location: Uley Posts: 9 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for that , I'm going to see if they have any 800MHZ processors left. Any clues as to why my BIOS is still going slow even after the BIOS update? Cheers. Paul.

20th Oct 2005, 01:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
rainman999 Newbie Join Date: 13 Oct 2005 Location: Uley Posts: 9 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	I've looked through every place I can find in the BIOS and there is no APIC settings at all. I hate to seem dense but if it's not related at all to USB, what is it? Thank you. Paul.