Two or more processors... - Page 2

ZuePhok · 13th Jan 2006, 11:04 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAH 4.6ghz!

prasys · 13th Jan 2006, 04:40 PM

The OS or the application must support it (SMP = Symmetric multiprocessing). I know Linux does support , this . Compiling a kernel on my EE is really fast , because it uses HT + 2 cores to compile the kernel vs if you disable HT and the 2nd core. Thus SMP helps a lot on this. But for games , nah..It does not support. All it sees is 1 processor and it does not even take advantage of it (as of 2005). So , once games do support SMP , then...you might fall in love with it

luqman · 18th Jan 2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by prasys

The OS or the application must support it (SMP = Symmetric multiprocessing). I know Linux does support , this . Compiling a kernel on my EE is really fast , because it uses HT + 2 cores to compile the kernel vs if you disable HT and the 2nd core. Thus SMP helps a lot on this. But for games , nah..It does not support. All it sees is 1 processor and it does not even take advantage of it (as of 2005). So , once games do support SMP , then...you might fall in love with it

which linux is the newest version??? am trying to do a multi-partion so am basiclly gonna have windows xp pro and linux in the same computer

just tell me which is the newest plz

SilentBotts · 18th Jan 2006, 01:06 PM

Dude there are hundreds of different Linux distruibutions, that are being updated constantly. Just do some research and pick one that you like.
I've fiddled with gentoo, knoppix, and debian.

luqman · 20th Jan 2006, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentBotts

Dude there are hundreds of different Linux distruibutions, that are being updated constantly. Just do some research and pick one that you like.
I've fiddled with gentoo, knoppix, and debian.

lol i will

i will get one

fyire · 31st Jan 2006, 02:29 PM

Dual CPU on a desktop, used to use that a few years back. Had one of those classic ABIT BP-6 motherboards, running a pair of celerons at 550mhz (fitted with a pair of Golden Orb heatsinks too after I saw the pic over at www.bp6.com)

Performance, pretty good, but dont expect your games to run any faster (unless the game itself supports SMP). But still, imagine this scenario:

Was hosting a multiplayer game of Diablo II (4 players, including myself). Got a phone call, needed to modify some stuff for some freelance work I was doing at that time, so all I had to do was alt-tab out, fire up my Netbeans IDE, make the changes, recompile, then burn the new binary onto a CD. All that's still with the hosted game of Diablo II running in the background, and without lagging anything much.

System properties shows that one cpu is constantly at 100% load (used by the game) which leaves the other CPU free for other stuff that I needed to do. Same goes too, if you're running many appz at the same time. For multi CPU systems, its not just about the speed (as that will depend on the application itself too), but more on the overall response time that you're gonna get if you're to really stress out your system.

kayFX · 31st Jan 2006, 05:57 PM

haha.. look what i found.. imagine using 4 dual core opteron and 64Gb of RAM on a system..

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qw.html
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qsdpro.html

add this one you'll get another 4 dual core opteron and add 64Gb more RAM..
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/m4881.html

total system core = 16

total system memory = 128Gb

liddokun10 · 7th Feb 2006, 06:41 AM

Nice, but i've always been partial to Iwill when it comes to server stuff. Check out their 8processor server backbone solution. All that wootness in a 5U chassis.

http://www.iwill.net/product_2.asp?p_id=90&sp=Y

goldfries · 21st Feb 2006, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by luqman

which linux is the newest version??? am trying to do a multi-partion so am basiclly gonna have windows xp pro and linux in the same computer

just tell me which is the newest plz

perhaps you should try LiveCD linux to decide which one to go for.

Ubuntu 5.10 is nice. i like this one.

Knoppix is cool, especially with the LiveDVD.

Slax is nice as well, really compact and boots really fast due to it's small nature. of course the package contains lesser items compared to Ubuntu and Knoppix.

//yeah i know i'm off topic already.

empire23 · 15th Mar 2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The_YongGrand

I know - these two processors are only used by server and all the heavy use applications.

But I'm very curious - I haven't actually seen or use a 2-processor computer - is this two times faster if the application supports it?

And what happen to the My Computer->Properties (System properties) window? Will it say and list down two processors?

And will all the games support two-processor systems as well?

Multiprocessor systems are nice in multitasking environments because generally Windows (XP and 2k) deals with all the process threads via the HAL. And gives a total performance boost in normal windows operations. And using a dual core over here, the smoothness is something even my HT processor couldn't replicate, i generally jump and open multiple programs without lag.

But when you're only running one program, haha, that's where a few problems come in. Generally the program must be capable of SMT support so that it can pass 2 threads along to the HAL for Dual core processing. And ofcourse the implementation of such is also another factor. Sure, 2 threads, but if one thread is given less work than the other, there you have it, efficiency loss. Generally the amount of performance boost you get from running a dual proc setup is dictated by the programmer's talents. Ofcourse there's a maximum of around 90 percent due to factors like overhead, cache seek and coherency problems.

You won't get a 100 percent boost by the extra core, but even the average 50 percent boost in normal windows operations justifies the cost for me

13th Jan 2006, 11:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
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18th Jan 2006, 01:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
SilentBotts Just Started Join Date: 23 Aug 2005 Location: CT, USA Posts: 66 Reputation: 66 Rep Power: 0	Dude there are hundreds of different Linux distruibutions, that are being updated constantly. Just do some research and pick one that you like. I've fiddled with gentoo, knoppix, and debian. __________________ Sheila: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice Core) \| Asus A8N-SLI Premium \| 1024mb Corsair XMS (1 DIMM) \| 2x eVGA Geforce 7800GT COs @ stock (for now) \| Seagate Barracuda 80gb SATA \| Sony DVD-ROM \| Sony Dual Layer DVD-+R/-+RW \| Antec Neo HE550 PSU Video cards are like chicks, and chicks are like Voltron, the more you hook up the better it gets.

31st Jan 2006, 05:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
kayFX Active Join Date: 4 Sep 2004 Location: in my room Posts: 633 Reputation: 253 Rep Power: 8	haha.. look what i found.. imagine using 4 dual core opteron and 64Gb of RAM on a system.. http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qw.html http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qsdpro.html add this one you'll get another 4 dual core opteron and add 64Gb more RAM.. http://www.tyan.com/products/html/m4881.html total system core = 16 total system memory = 128Gb __________________ my gaming gear: steelseries Siberia \| Logitech MX518 \| Everglide Titan DKT edition \| Microsoft SideWinder X6 \| steelseries Ikari Optical

7th Feb 2006, 06:41 AM	#18 (permalink)
liddokun10 Just Started Join Date: 21 Apr 2003 Location: DU Posts: 39 Reputation: 15 Rep Power: 0	Nice, but i've always been partial to Iwill when it comes to server stuff. Check out their 8processor server backbone solution. All that wootness in a 5U chassis. http://www.iwill.net/product_2.asp?p_id=90&sp=Y __________________ AMD Athlon XP 1700+ @ 2000Mhz 1.4Vcc (Ya gotta love the temps) AXDA1700DLT3C 9883397280331 JIUHB0322XPMW Epox 8K9A2+ Apacer 2x256MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM Leadtek Winfast A340 TDH Plus other ageing components ^_^

13th Jan 2006, 04:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
prasys Newbie Join Date: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 6 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	The OS or the application must support it (SMP = Symmetric multiprocessing). I know Linux does support , this . Compiling a kernel on my EE is really fast , because it uses HT + 2 cores to compile the kernel vs if you disable HT and the 2nd core. Thus SMP helps a lot on this. But for games , nah..It does not support. All it sees is 1 processor and it does not even take advantage of it (as of 2005). So , once games do support SMP , then...you might fall in love with it

31st Jan 2006, 02:29 PM	#16 (permalink)
fyire I'm a regular Join Date: 15 Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere out there Posts: 352 Reputation: 15 Rep Power: 7	Dual CPU on a desktop, used to use that a few years back. Had one of those classic ABIT BP-6 motherboards, running a pair of celerons at 550mhz (fitted with a pair of Golden Orb heatsinks too after I saw the pic over at www.bp6.com) Performance, pretty good, but dont expect your games to run any faster (unless the game itself supports SMP). But still, imagine this scenario: Was hosting a multiplayer game of Diablo II (4 players, including myself). Got a phone call, needed to modify some stuff for some freelance work I was doing at that time, so all I had to do was alt-tab out, fire up my Netbeans IDE, make the changes, recompile, then burn the new binary onto a CD. All that's still with the hosted game of Diablo II running in the background, and without lagging anything much. System properties shows that one cpu is constantly at 100% load (used by the game) which leaves the other CPU free for other stuff that I needed to do. Same goes too, if you're running many appz at the same time. For multi CPU systems, its not just about the speed (as that will depend on the application itself too), but more on the overall response time that you're gonna get if you're to really stress out your system.