Making the switch to AM2

[The_YongGrand]

Originally Posted by CALLOFDUTY05

U deny or not, it clearly visible that what company u speak for.I'm not saying that AMD will beat C2D with their coming CPUs but u r continously saying that C2D will beat AMD even in future.R u dreaming ? Is there night now where u stay ?
Let the time tell us that.Why r u showing so possessiveness for Intel ? Can u see the future ? If so, then let me know when these two gonna launch 45 nm cores.


Chai seems to me more practical than most of u.

Come on, don't worry so much about these. If you worry about which one beats which one this argument will be endless.

I used both Intel and AMD processors and both of them have their own merits. These processor companies have their ups and downs too. Sometimes Intel has the best one, and sometimes AMD has the best one. The #1 position will be kept being occupied by either one of them everytime. No one is the clear winner there - the customer actually WINS in the end. It's the CUSTOMER who buy these stuff.

If the AMD-Fx series can take a huge price cut and labeled it as budget sector, maybe it'll be COMPARABLE to the Core series - because the AMD-Fx is very overpriced at this time. A E6300 can almost outdo an AMD-Fx in a very very low price. Let's say if the AMD-Fx cut the price until at least half, maybe I can say that this is comparable.

What makes the best processor? Actually it is low-priced, low-wattage (saves energy), versatility and mobility. The VIA Samuel processor is still a good one if you want an energy saving PC. Or the Geode which drinks only a few watts and it's perfect for portable computers. If you don't bother about performance, these two are actually your best friends.

Again, debating about the Intel vs AMD is just not fun.

[Max_87]

Originally Posted by The_YongGrand

What makes the best processor? Actually it is low-priced, low-wattage (saves energy), versatility and mobility. The VIA Samuel processor is still a good one if you want an energy saving PC. Or the Geode which drinks only a few watts and it's perfect for portable computers. If you don't bother about performance, these two are actually your best friends.

Not really, you can't really say that those processors are the best for everyone Of course, energy efficient processors would be the best for portable computers. Most of us are PC enthusiasts/overclockers here, so we consider the best/best price/performance processors the best for us.

Originally Posted by The_YongGrand

Again, debating about the Intel vs AMD is just not fun.

Actually, most of us here merely speak for the best products right now (not company) but not the fanboy

[The_YongGrand]

Agree with you - the one of best product in computing history will be still the Core 2 Duo. A few 7 years back it was the Slot A Athlons - at that time ALL of the sudden the Athlons and the AMD became household names. before that, everyone knows only the Pentium... but after August '99, woah, my friends, parents, people started talking about Athlons. We see their products overtaking each other everytime they released a new product. Quite a strong competition, isn't it?

And... I thought fanboyism is not allowed here at all?

[Chai]

Was Athlon that much better than P3 at that time? I recall it was pretty equal in most benchmark, certainly nothing like what A64 had over P4, or C2D over A64.

[CALLOFDUTY05]

Originally Posted by Chai

Was Athlon that much better than P3 at that time? I recall it was pretty equal in most benchmark, certainly nothing like what A64 had over P4, or C2D over A64.

Yes , I think so(pls don't think that it's a fanboy who is saying those) coz I'm a System Integrator here & I have atleast some idea about performance differences b2in the two.Though I can't afford 2 have a high-end PC like u but I do assemble high-end systems for companies & Enterprises.I can only say u,that out of the systems I've built or sell to my customers, AMD customers r the most happy ones.I've an old P3 & an Athlon 850 Mhz Thunderbird.So, I know the diff as well.

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by CALLOFDUTY05

Yes , I think so(pls don't think that it's a fanboy who is saying those) coz I'm a System Integrator here & I have atleast some idea about performance differences b2in the two.Though I can't afford 2 have a high-end PC like u but I do assemble high-end systems for companies & Enterprises.I can only say u,that out of the systems I've built or sell to my customers, AMD customers r the most happy ones.I've an old P3 & an Athlon 850 Mhz Thunderbird.So, I know the diff as well.

TBH, ALL x86 processors are operationally the same. They have to be the same. What's the use of a processor that is 10X faster than the A64 but outputs 1 when it's supposed to be 0?

So, I frankly don't see how your customers will ever know the difference between Intel and AMD processors. Most end-users I encounter can't even tell the difference. That's why Intel's Intel Inside marketing worked so well.

Only techies will know the real difference between each processor, and evaluate their price-effectiveness. To buy a product merely because of marketing, or fanboyism is really only something a n00b would do.

[CALLOFDUTY05]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

TBH, ALL x86 processors are operationally the same. They have to be the same. What's the use of a processor that is 10X faster than the A64 but outputs 1 when it's supposed to be 0?

So, I frankly don't see how your customers will ever know the difference between Intel and AMD processors. Most end-users I encounter can't even tell the difference. That's why Intel's Intel Inside marketing worked so well.

Only techies will know the real difference between each processor, and evaluate their price-effectiveness. To buy a product merely because of marketing, or fanboyism is really only something a n00b would do.

I've already said that I'm not a n00b & what marketing r u talking about ? I don't know about ur country but in India(140 crores of population),AMD does not promote themselves which Intel does extensively.AMD didn't even have a TV or paper ad here ever.What, Intel has not gained by promoting their brand by sparing huge money on ads,AMD has earned that by not sparing even a single penny on Ads. I've not seen even a single ad of AMD in India in ne media since my birth.Inspite of this, In India, Intel's market share is 30% against the 70% of AMD. 70% people can't be n00b.

[zy]

70%

well amd is a cheaper solution

different region have different marketing
in india its 70% maybe due to the lower cost of amd pcs

i stil remember when pentium4 were using RDRAMS which was so dmn expensive when compared to athlon systems

you usually see intel motherboards are generally more expensive too

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by CALLOFDUTY05

I've already said that I'm not a n00b & what marketing r u talking about ? I don't know about ur country but in India(140 crores of population),AMD does not promote themselves which Intel does extensively.AMD didn't even have a TV or paper ad here ever.What, Intel has not gained by promoting their brand by sparing huge money on ads,AMD has earned that by not sparing even a single penny on Ads. I've not seen even a single ad of AMD in India in ne media since my birth.Inspite of this, In India, Intel's market share is 30% against the 70% of AMD. 70% people can't be n00b.

Eh CALLOFDUTY05, please read my post properly.

I'm not saying you are a n00b. I'm only saying that only n00bs will fall for marketing and fanboyism, since techies will know better.

You have never heard of Intel's amazing Intel Inside marketing campaign? That has got to be one of the most successful marketing campaigns ever. Most newbies buy Intel simply because they only know their PC must have an Intel inside.

Hmm.. Where did you get those statistics from? Intel processors only have a 30% market share in India?? And AMD has 70%????

Oddly enough, this marketing report from TEXT100, a PR company for AMD, seems to say different - http://www.text100.com/pdf/delhi_AMD.pdf

According to them, they launched a very massive campaign in India, which moved AMD's market share to 14% in 2002. It's a bit dated, but I seriously doubt AMD has a 70% market share in India.

[Chai]

Choosing AMD over Intel doesn't make them more literate. AMD has always been the underdog, they have been cheaper than Intel all this while (until A64 came by). Statistic around the world shows that AMD is hardly above 30% in the history, I'm wondering if you are confused with Intel 70% AMD 30%!

We don't have AMD ads here as well.