Making the switch to AM2

[CALLOFDUTY05]

Originally Posted by zy

70%

well amd is a cheaper solution

different region have different marketing
in india its 70% maybe due to the lower cost of amd pcs

i stil remember when pentium4 were using RDRAMS which was so dmn expensive when compared to athlon systems

you usually see intel motherboards are generally more expensive too

Yeah, u r right.AMD motherboards with inbuilt Nvidia or ATI graphics r a huge success here coz they offer decent gaming 4 casual gamers & serve the purpose very well.An intel with an inbuilt 915,945 & 950 graphics can also play some games but these low end chipsets r no way comparable with the AMD motherboard's inbuilt Geforce 2, Geforce4 MX,Geforce 6 - 6100/6150 & ATI Radeon 200P Express chipsets.So, it's a boon to every common man when he get Nvidia/ATI graphics in his motherboard without paying extra for the graphics card.

Ofcourse, if u want to play FEAR & Half Life 2 - Ep 1,these inbuilt graphics will let u down but believe me,most people r happy with that integrated graphics.They don't want more.That's why, AMD has such a big lead here.If Intel would have comparable inbuilt graphics ,then the marketing scenario would have changed as well but not till now.

Nvidia & ATI have such strong presence in AMD mobos which can't be beaten by Intel.Even Nvidia 590 SLI is superior than Intel's top of the line 975x. AMD is now more strong after the acquisition of ATI coz they can now invest more money in the R&D & will come up with something that will make Intel redo their strategy.Now, C2D is way more superior than even FX-62 coz AMD didn't take the C2D launch seriously.They have learnt the lesson by burning their own fingers.

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by CALLOFDUTY05

Yeah, u r right.AMD motherboards with inbuilt Nvidia or ATI graphics r a huge success here coz they offer decent gaming 4 casual gamers & serve the purpose very well.An intel with an inbuilt 915,945 & 950 graphics can also play some games but these low end chipsets r no way comparable with the AMD motherboard's inbuilt Geforce 2, Geforce4 MX,Geforce 6 - 6100/6150 & ATI Radeon 200P Express chipsets.So, it's a boon to every common man when he get Nvidia/ATI graphics in his motherboard without paying extra for the graphics card.

Ofcourse, if u want to play FEAR & Half Life 2 - Ep 1,these inbuilt graphics will let u down but believe me,most people r happy with that integrated graphics.They don't want more.That's why, AMD has such a big lead here.If Intel would have comparable inbuilt graphics ,then the marketing scenario would have changed as well but not till now.

Nvidia & ATI have such strong presence in AMD mobos which can't be beaten by Intel.Even Nvidia 590 SLI is superior than Intel's top of the line 975x. AMD is now more strong after the acquisition of ATI coz they can now invest more money in the R&D & will come up with something that will make Intel redo their strategy.Now, C2D is way more superior than even FX-62 coz AMD didn't take the C2D launch seriously.They have learnt the lesson by burning their own fingers.

TBH, if AMD has to wait until the launch to do anything seriously, then they are really screwed.

Do you know how long it takes any manufacturer from the design to the actual manufacture of a new CPU?

[ZuePhok]

Originally Posted by Chai

We don't have AMD ads here as well.

eh, got la. my mag.
ta pau them twice before aug 2005, and aug 2006
now HWM and PC Pro gets AMD ads as well.

[CALLOFDUTY05]

Originally Posted by Chai

Choosing AMD over Intel doesn't make them more literate. AMD has always been the underdog, they have been cheaper than Intel all this while (until A64 came by). Statistic around the world shows that AMD is hardly above 30% in the history, I'm wondering if you are confused with Intel 70% AMD 30%!

We don't have AMD ads here as well.

No, I'm not confused with my statistics at all.I live in India so, I think I know the statistics very well,atleast 4 my country.Don't know about the statistics in ur country though. I'll post a link to the statistics when I get that in my hand.

[CALLOFDUTY05]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

TBH, if AMD has to wait until the launch to do anything seriously, then they are really screwed.

Do you know how long it takes any manufacturer from the design to the actual manufacture of a new CPU?

U got me wrong again, I mean to say that they didn't think that C2D will be so strong.That's why I've written that "They have learnt the lesson by burning their own fingers."

I think u guys have have forgot, who was the ist to bring a 64Bit mainstream CPU in the market which can also run 32 bit applications ? Who was the ist to invent a Dual core CPU ?

The words called "64 bit" & "Dual core" which C2D & u all crave about were ist invented & manufactured by AMD.They were the brainchild of AMD.Intel only have followed suit.

[PsYkHoTiK]

lol they have a shared technology exchange agreement (one of the reasons why the other smaller manufacturers don't do so well) which simplifies a lot of things.

Just like how AMD follows the SSE, SSE II, & SSE III SIMD instructions from you know who...

Such display of a closed mindset and narrow thinking (such as yours) would have never allowed AMD to achieve the position that they're in (clearly AMD is the main benefactor in the deal.)

[Chai]

Originally Posted by CALLOFDUTY05

U got me wrong again, I mean to say that they didn't think that C2D will be so strong.That's why I've written that "They have learnt the lesson by burning their own fingers."

I think u guys have have forgot, who was the ist to bring a 64Bit mainstream CPU in the market which can also run 32 bit applications ? Who was the ist to invent a Dual core CPU ?

The words called "64 bit" & "Dual core" which C2D & u all crave about were ist invented & manufactured by AMD.They were the brainchild of AMD.Intel only have followed suit.

Do you know how long it takes any manufacturer from the design to the actual manufacture of a new CPU?

Question remains, do you know how long? Even if they brought in first, they did NOT invent them.

[The_YongGrand]

If I'm not mistaken, the SSE instructions are all borrowed from Intel by AMD, and then they are slightly modified. Even the 3DNow! is from MMX structure actually.

In fact, these two major companies actually 'shared' technologies too. You might find out that the 1st Dual-Core is by AMD and the 1st mainstream desktop 64-bit is by AMD too (although Intel has already a 64-bit for industrial use only) and Intel could have borrowed them. Again, AMD borrowed some of Intel's technologies as well, like these instructions I have stated. Maybe there's some more of them.

Originally Posted by CALLOFDUTY05

U got me wrong again, I mean to say that they didn't think that C2D will be so strong.That's why I've written that "They have learnt the lesson by burning their own fingers."

I think u guys have have forgot, who was the ist to bring a 64Bit mainstream CPU in the market which can also run 32 bit applications ? Who was the ist to invent a Dual core CPU ?

The words called "64 bit" & "Dual core" which C2D & u all crave about were ist invented & manufactured by AMD.They were the brainchild of AMD.Intel only have followed suit.

Hmm... are these performance comparisons of Intel and AMD processors going to change the way the world spin, or the way people eat, or way people live? I don't think so. There's competition between these two, and only one must be a winner. Now Intel is a winner, but not sure will their position be maintained? In the end the customers only win because they buy what they want. I read it from an article, these Intel and AMD thingy is just like Coca-cola and Pepsi.

edit: I'm not any fanboy here, but I'm a careful and a prudent buyer. If the AMD hasn't cut prices to their X2s YET, I'll switch to the Cores immediately. If AMD came out with a Sempron X2 or Intel's Celeron Dual-core, I'll just flip a coin. I buy what I want, and the priceerformance ratio is very important to me.

[Chai]

Originally Posted by The_YongGrand

edit: I'm not any fanboy here, but I'm a careful and a prudent buyer. If the AMD hasn't cut prices to their X2s YET, I'll switch to the Cores immediately. If AMD came out with a Sempron X2 or Intel's Celeron Dual-core, I'll just flip a coin. I buy what I want, and the priceerformance ratio is very important to me.

That's what smart consumer would do!

[Max_87]

Originally Posted by The_YongGrand

edit: I'm not any fanboy here, but I'm a careful and a prudent buyer. If the AMD hasn't cut prices to their X2s YET, I'll switch to the Cores immediately. If AMD came out with a Sempron X2 or Intel's Celeron Dual-core, I'll just flip a coin. I buy what I want, and the priceerformance ratio is very important to me.