Making the switch to AM2 - Page 19

Brian · 1st Mar 2008, 10:27 PM

Nvidia's solutions aren't really competitive IMO

Their Geforce 7050 is similarly priced to the 690g's low end solutions and still the 690G beat their higher end offering, the 7150

The Radeon x1250 is the chip in the 690g

Nvidia GeForce 7150/nForce 630i integrated chipset | Register Hardware

Benchie comparing the 780G against NV's upcoming MCP78
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The MCP78 will supposedly support 8 channel sound though. From AT:

After posting some early comments about the 780G chipset, we had a flood of requests wondering about the HDMI output capabilities of the GeForce 8200. We will have further details later today but at this time the chipset is HDMI 1.3a "compliant". The mGPU does not support 12-bit or 16-bit deep color but meets the other video specific criteria. Also, 8-channel LPCM output is fully supported but decoding of TrueHD and DTS-HD MA is not available. We are still trying to understand NVIDIA's translation on the lack of TrueHD/DTS-HD MA support.

We do understand the chipset will not decode these audio standards but what is still not confirmed is if TrueHD/DTS-HD MA streams can be passed to PowerDVD 7 Ultra (or other supporting software applications), decoded, and then passed on as multichannel LPCM or out to a supporting A/V receiver to be decoded. We hope to have a final answer later this morning. In the meantime, we have to continue to express our concerns about the lack of multichannel LPCM output over HDMI in the AMD 780G product. Intel has already introduced this feature in the G35 chipset and NVIDIA will be introducing it later this month or in early March.

The specifications and features of the 780G and GeForce 8200 are very similar and most users will probably be satisfied with either solution. However, when it comes HTPC duty, generally the more advanced features the better, and in this case having multichannel LPCM output is an important distinction. We will have to wait to compare the video quality of AMD's UVD technology to the revamped NVIDIA PureVideo HD engine along with Hybrid CrossFire versus Hybrid SLI, but right now it appears NVIDIA is a couple of steps ahead in the audio area.

Note: I'm not advocating AMD for anything else but this due to their strength in their chipsets.

goldfries · 2nd Mar 2008, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenphic

the smaller cache is the most noticeable downgrade, but when you overclock the E2160 to 3.0 Ghz, it fares really well compared to similar clocked processors with higher cache.

X-bit labs - New Budget Dual-Core CPUs: Intel Pentium E2160 and Pentium E2140 (page 14)

which is why i'm running my E2140 @ 3.2ghz.

Mac Daddy · 2nd Mar 2008, 05:26 AM

AMD needs to work on L2 cache and O/Cing issues so no

(Just realized I didn't vote yet lol)

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Brian Hold me back! I can't stop posting!!! Join Date: 17 May 2003 Location: pj Posts: 5,699 Reputation: 179 Rep Power: 13	Nvidia's solutions aren't really competitive IMO Their Geforce 7050 is similarly priced to the 690g's low end solutions and still the 690G beat their higher end offering, the 7150 The Radeon x1250 is the chip in the 690g Nvidia GeForce 7150/nForce 630i integrated chipset \| Register Hardware Benchie comparing the 780G against NV's upcoming MCP78 \|><\| Ì«Æ½ÑóµçÄÔÍø The MCP78 will supposedly support 8 channel sound though. From AT: After posting some early comments about the 780G chipset, we had a flood of requests wondering about the HDMI output capabilities of the GeForce 8200. We will have further details later today but at this time the chipset is HDMI 1.3a "compliant". The mGPU does not support 12-bit or 16-bit deep color but meets the other video specific criteria. Also, 8-channel LPCM output is fully supported but decoding of TrueHD and DTS-HD MA is not available. We are still trying to understand NVIDIA's translation on the lack of TrueHD/DTS-HD MA support. We do understand the chipset will not decode these audio standards but what is still not confirmed is if TrueHD/DTS-HD MA streams can be passed to PowerDVD 7 Ultra (or other supporting software applications), decoded, and then passed on as multichannel LPCM or out to a supporting A/V receiver to be decoded. We hope to have a final answer later this morning. In the meantime, we have to continue to express our concerns about the lack of multichannel LPCM output over HDMI in the AMD 780G product. Intel has already introduced this feature in the G35 chipset and NVIDIA will be introducing it later this month or in early March. The specifications and features of the 780G and GeForce 8200 are very similar and most users will probably be satisfied with either solution. However, when it comes HTPC duty, generally the more advanced features the better, and in this case having multichannel LPCM output is an important distinction. We will have to wait to compare the video quality of AMD's UVD technology to the revamped NVIDIA PureVideo HD engine along with Hybrid CrossFire versus Hybrid SLI, but right now it appears NVIDIA is a couple of steps ahead in the audio area. Note: I'm not advocating AMD for anything else but this due to their strength in their chipsets. __________________ c2quad q6600 gigabyte p35-ds3 2gb ddr2 667 radeon hd2600xt dell 2407fpw-hc Last edited by Brian : 1st Mar 2008 at 10:35 PM.

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