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Old 11th Jul 2008, 11:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well I guess for someone who doesn't want to upgrade there CPU,Mobo and memory to DDR2/3 it serves its purpose. They are a cheap motherboard.

On memory, AGP and PCI-E issues I experienced with both boards they were all resolved by BIOS and VIA chipset updates. I am running onboard video and audio on that machine now its what I use for IM and surfing while my main rig is tied up for tests for articles. I have no intentions of running a new high end card in it lol.

As for bottlenecks well if you check through NGO where I will no longer go you will find a thread started by Dyre Straits. He was running an E6000 series CPU at that time with an X1950XTX it was for fun but I think he was trying to prove a point. He failed on that point and really don't care about the benchmark BUT ... I did outbench him on 3dmark3 running my 478 socket Prescott on that mobo with a modded X1950

I think sometimes people rely on results and statistics from 3rd party sources to often and lack vision of what modding and O/Cing can really do .. no offense to anyone
Hmm.. interesting report. Yes - it's a controversy here. There's only 10% performance hit on these 16 -> 4x reduction of the bandwidth anyway. However, many of the VIA-chipset based boards are rumoured to be flaky, especially the problematic cold-boot (Asrock) and poor stability/performance (MSI).

I once used a MSI board with a VIA chipset for Intel platform and it's fine for me. No problems too, but maybe it's not really geared for gaming.

Also, the Asrock Dual-VSTA is a fantastic board despite the minor shortcomings. I wonder do they still sell those or not!
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Hmm.. interesting report. Yes - it's a controversy here. There's only 10% performance hit on these 16 -> 4x reduction of the bandwidth anyway. However, many of the VIA-chipset based boards are rumoured to be flaky, especially the problematic cold-boot (Asrock) and poor stability/performance (MSI).

I once used a MSI board with a VIA chipset for Intel platform and it's fine for me. No problems too, but maybe it's not really geared for gaming.

Also, the Asrock Dual-VSTA is a fantastic board despite the minor shortcomings. I wonder do they still sell those or not!
True on controversy and the reason I managed to outbench Dyre even though he was running a C2D was the modded X1950. And I know some will say 3dmark3 isn't a real test but the fact is his X1950XTX went into thermal shutdown trying to match the core and memory I could reach with the modded card. So in reality I doubt at the settings he had for that 3dmark3 score he would even be able to run the Crysis benchmark stable

On the ASrock boards and VIA I think we said the same thing in a different way. You get what you pay for and these two mobo's I have here even though they are lower end work DAMN good.

We are getting off topic here but a good discussion Bro ... sorry to hijack your thread belikethat
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