The Stubborn Paging File Guide Posted!

peaz · 23rd Dec 2004, 12:27 AM

If you have already read our Virtual Memory Optimization Guide, you might have already created and optimized your own semi-permanent paging file. But before you rub your palms in glee, reboot your system and check the paging file size. Don't be surprised if you find your paging file magically enlarged to over 1.5GB!

Today, we will examine the problem in detail and show you the solution. We suspect many of you will be affected by this problem as well. So, double-check your paging file size and read on!

Link : The Stubborn Paging File!

SAMSAMHA · 23rd Dec 2004, 12:47 AM

nice guide, thanks so much for doing so much helping fine tune our pc. Your site is really devoted to finetune the system. Great job.

JRW_Assassin · 23rd Dec 2004, 08:25 AM

I have read both of your articles on VM optimisation:

Here are my experiences -
When the first guide was released, I attempted to follow it. At the time, I noticed that the minimum recommended size was 1534MB (sound familiar). I was able to change the size allocated, and it stays at the size set.

I firstly made a fixed partition, and set it at 1534MB - I figured that if WinXP wanted that much, it could have it.
I also tried to make one 1000MB - 2000MB. What I found was that even though WinXP Recommended this amount, it would make the partition at the minimum amount and keep it at that (1000MB)

Upon reading your second article about NAV products, I thought I would share what I am using (and it is still recommending 1534MB)

I have a XP2800+ on a NF7-s, 2x80GB in a raid0 array, with 2x512MB ram. I am running WinXP SP2, and Trend Micro Internet Security - so NO Norton/Symantec products!

Any thoughts?

Another point - when I created a fixed partition, the defrag program you recommended in your first article would not move the page file to the outer tracks.

peaz · 23rd Dec 2004, 09:59 AM

Are you installing any Anti Virus software on your machine? Trend Micro Internet Security isn't exactly an AV software so I doubt the will prevent Windows from changing the page file size. Hmmm. Did you also install Trend Micro's AntiVirus software along with Internet Security? If so, you might want to check if there's an option to prevent it's service from loading up on System start.

Adrian Wong · 23rd Dec 2004, 10:33 AM

Yeah, Diskeeper generally won't move the paging file. In fact, it prefers to keep the boot files at the outermost tracks.

There will be an update on this later.

JRW_Assassin · 23rd Dec 2004, 11:16 AM

I am using Trend micro Internet security, which includes an AV (looks and feels to me like pc-cillin.)
I will do some tests with real-time scan disabled, and also with the software starting up after windows, and post back with the results.

Adrian Wong · 23rd Dec 2004, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRW_Assassin

I am using Trend micro Internet security, which includes an AV (looks and feels to me like pc-cillin.)
I will do some tests with real-time scan disabled, and also with the software starting up after windows, and post back with the results.

Great!

JRW_Assassin · 23rd Dec 2004, 03:44 PM

I have done a little more testing -
with the real time scan switched off, WinXP still recommends a 1534MB Page file, but does not go over the set amount - I had it set at 700MB. (see the pic)
I then changed the Trend Micro folder's name, so it could not load up on windows startup (I couldnt find anywhere in the programs settings to set that). Win XP still recommended a 1534MB swap file. Interesting I say. If you guys have no other thoughts on this, I might do a full uninstall of Trend Micro and find out if that makes a difference. At this stage though, it looks like SP2 is what is recommending such a large page file. It is interesting though that even though it is recommending that, it still is sticking with what I set.

BTW adrian - If you think you know me, you do - I work for OC Wizard, and we post news from your site fairly regularly.

EDIT: I have posted about the two page file articles on our site, as well as a link to this thread - I am chasing more information, as I do find it very interesting what is being uncovered! Here: http://forums.ocwizard.com/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=2121 - I do hope that you dont mind.

zy · 23rd Dec 2004, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peaz

Are you installing any Anti Virus software on your machine? Trend Micro Internet Security isn't exactly an AV software so I doubt the will prevent Windows from changing the page file size. Hmmm. Did you also install Trend Micro's AntiVirus software along with Internet Security? If so, you might want to check if there's an option to prevent it's service from loading up on System start.

Internet Security = Firewall + Antivirus

just like Norton's

decuser · 24th Dec 2004, 01:53 AM

I had the exact same prob with Symantec Corp 9, I didn't investigate but figured it was something along these lines. I 'fixed' it by switching to AVG antivirus

Will

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peaz ARP Webmaster Join Date: 13 Oct 2002 Location: http://atpeaz.placidthoughts.com/ Posts: 8,500 Reputation: 1633 Rep Power: 31	Are you installing any Anti Virus software on your machine? Trend Micro Internet Security isn't exactly an AV software so I doubt the will prevent Windows from changing the page file size. Hmmm. Did you also install Trend Micro's AntiVirus software along with Internet Security? If so, you might want to check if there's an option to prevent it's service from loading up on System start. __________________ Ken Ng Tech ARP Visit my web gallery - Ken's Digital Canvas Shoot and Earn Money from Stock Photography Sterling@PJ Community Forums

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decuser Newbie Join Date: 24 Dec 2004 Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	same prob - moved to AVG Free I had the exact same prob with Symantec Corp 9, I didn't investigate but figured it was something along these lines. I 'fixed' it by switching to AVG antivirus Will

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SAMSAMHA Super Active Join Date: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 2,356 Reputation: 197 Rep Power: 8	nice guide, thanks so much for doing so much helping fine tune our pc. Your site is really devoted to finetune the system. Great job.

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JRW_Assassin Newbie Join Date: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 4 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	I am using Trend micro Internet security, which includes an AV (looks and feels to me like pc-cillin.) I will do some tests with real-time scan disabled, and also with the software starting up after windows, and post back with the results.