Product Overview Survey - Page 2

Adrian Wong · 28th Nov 2005, 12:06 AM

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Please vote!

We need a lot more votes for this to be statistically significant!

Max_87 · 19th Dec 2005, 11:17 PM

Damn I missed so many threads when I'm not around

Well, the product overview is really pointless, seriously.

As a reader myself, I don't see any good reason to include this overview thing. Okay its just my POV anyway

BUT, the poll results says it

Dashken · 20th Dec 2005, 08:33 PM

Just FYI, everytime I looking for something through Google, I always make sure I type "product name + review", just so that I only filter the reviews. Actually I don't need an article that tells me about the specs and what I get in the box. I actually want the specs and the review. Coz what specs can do if you don't have the review?

Eg. dpreview. When I was thinking of purchasing a camera. I went to dpreview and looked at the specs. If there's no review, I'll go Google for one.

The specs at dpreview meant something because, it only focus on camera. And grouped by the brand. So, there's a point even if there's no review available. It's like a database.

Err... you get where I'm going with this?

The thing is more focus... but if we do it here, I don't see any point because we are not focus, we don't group stuffs into groups, like we don't group motherboard according to their manufacturer, etc where we can browse through easily. Dang...

Chai · 20th Dec 2005, 10:06 PM

Huh? Why so difficult? Can't you just check the manufacturer's website?

Well, I can tell you something, you used the wrong method to buy the camera. Specs mean nothing when comes to camera. Are you saying that Canon IXUS 700 is better than Nikon D2H because Canon has got more pixels than Nikon? Far from the truth, which is why you need to read the full reviews to understand. Yes, I agree with you, specs are better than nothing, but why bother when I know I can get the specs from the manufacturer's website?

I almost never google product specs, but instead, I search for the manufacturer's website and get info from there. UNLESS, it's an old product, even the manufacturer doesn't have them, then ONLY I will search google.

Dashken · 20th Dec 2005, 10:21 PM

LOL! You are wrong... I used specs and compared them with other cameras side by side. At least I know what's lacking in other camera, etc. Some don't even have audio in video recording. I need all in one, that's why specs are important. I know I can go to the manufacturer's website. But can the manufacturer website display a comparison of their camera with others (any) of my choice? No!

After I filter out the camera that don't fit into my needs, then only I started looking for reviews and asking people.

But this only applies to camera because we have site like dpreview. For other computer gadgets, etc. I'll go look at the manufacturer's website.

I never google product specs at all, I google for reviews from sites and also from users.

Chai · 20th Dec 2005, 10:27 PM

Duh, of course compare specs side by side la. If not, find specs for what?

Yes, dpreview has side by side comparison, but do we?

Our products vary so much it's virtually impossible to maintain a usable database like our current graphics card guide.

Adrian Wong · 20th Dec 2005, 10:41 PM

Yeah, it would not be possible to do side-by-side comparisons. Even if we just compare a single product with another product in the same category, some may question our choice of product used in the comparison.. or why we only keep it to a single side-by-side comparison. What a headache.

Max_87 · 21st Dec 2005, 03:16 AM

If I really want to look for specifications, I usually go to the manufacturer website. If not, I would look for it in reviews. Okay, why do I think it is pointless? because you listed the specifications in the overview page and then inside the review you listed it again. Er.... I don't see any point here. If you think that I might not find the specs that easily in the review, nope. I can easily navigate and find the specifications through the quick link menu. Plus, telling me what is contained inside the box is pretty much pointless also, because I want to actually see the components, the picss

.........and it feels like you are advertising the product also

Chai · 21st Dec 2005, 08:12 AM

Although I don't really like the idea of pictorial review, but it serves a lot more purpose than product overview because we have the actual product in hand, and pictures can tell a lot of stories.

Adrian Wong · 23rd Dec 2005, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max_87

If I really want to look for specifications, I usually go to the manufacturer website. If not, I would look for it in reviews. Okay, why do I think it is pointless? because you listed the specifications in the overview page and then inside the review you listed it again. Er.... I don't see any point here. If you think that I might not find the specs that easily in the review, nope. I can easily navigate and find the specifications through the quick link menu. Plus, telling me what is contained inside the box is pretty much pointless also, because I want to actually see the components, the picss

.........and it feels like you are advertising the product also

Huh? You don't want to know what's inside the package?

View Poll Results: Are Product Overviews (without a review) useful to you?
Yes	4	22.22%
No	14	77.78%
Not sure / No comment	0	0%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

28th Nov 2005, 12:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
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19th Dec 2005, 11:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
Max_87 h@x! Join Date: 11 Aug 2003 Location: Sarawak, Malaysia. Posts: 11,261 Reputation: 2024 Rep Power: 37	Damn I missed so many threads when I'm not around Well, the product overview is really pointless, seriously. As a reader myself, I don't see any good reason to include this overview thing. Okay its just my POV anyway BUT, the poll results says it __________________ Max_87 Tech ARP http://www.techarp.com P4 630 / Abit IP35 Pro / G.Skill F2-8000CL5-4GBPQ / Radeon X1800 / Barracuda 7200.9 120GB / 7200.10 320GB x2 / Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS / WD6400AAKS x2 / Dell 2007FP x2 / Silverstone ST56F

20th Dec 2005, 08:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dashken Administrator! Join Date: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Penang Posts: 29,722 Reputation: 2162 Rep Power: 56	Just FYI, everytime I looking for something through Google, I always make sure I type "product name + review", just so that I only filter the reviews. Actually I don't need an article that tells me about the specs and what I get in the box. I actually want the specs and the review. Coz what specs can do if you don't have the review? Eg. dpreview. When I was thinking of purchasing a camera. I went to dpreview and looked at the specs. If there's no review, I'll go Google for one. The specs at dpreview meant something because, it only focus on camera. And grouped by the brand. So, there's a point even if there's no review available. It's like a database. Err... you get where I'm going with this? The thing is more focus... but if we do it here, I don't see any point because we are not focus, we don't group stuffs into groups, like we don't group motherboard according to their manufacturer, etc where we can browse through easily. Dang... __________________ \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.2Ghz \| ASUS P5B-E Plus \| G.SKILL 2x1GB DDR2 800 \| 6 HDDs (2TB+ only ) \| NVIDIA GeForce 7600GT \| Dell E248WFP 24" Widescreen \| Blog : Dashken's I-Blog Gallery : Dashken's I-Paintings

20th Dec 2005, 10:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,661 Reputation: 3984 Rep Power: 72	Huh? Why so difficult? Can't you just check the manufacturer's website? Well, I can tell you something, you used the wrong method to buy the camera. Specs mean nothing when comes to camera. Are you saying that Canon IXUS 700 is better than Nikon D2H because Canon has got more pixels than Nikon? Far from the truth, which is why you need to read the full reviews to understand. Yes, I agree with you, specs are better than nothing, but why bother when I know I can get the specs from the manufacturer's website? I almost never google product specs, but instead, I search for the manufacturer's website and get info from there. UNLESS, it's an old product, even the manufacturer doesn't have them, then ONLY I will search google. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

20th Dec 2005, 10:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dashken Administrator! Join Date: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Penang Posts: 29,722 Reputation: 2162 Rep Power: 56	LOL! You are wrong... I used specs and compared them with other cameras side by side. At least I know what's lacking in other camera, etc. Some don't even have audio in video recording. I need all in one, that's why specs are important. I know I can go to the manufacturer's website. But can the manufacturer website display a comparison of their camera with others (any) of my choice? No! After I filter out the camera that don't fit into my needs, then only I started looking for reviews and asking people. But this only applies to camera because we have site like dpreview. For other computer gadgets, etc. I'll go look at the manufacturer's website. I never google product specs at all, I google for reviews from sites and also from users. __________________ \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.2Ghz \| ASUS P5B-E Plus \| G.SKILL 2x1GB DDR2 800 \| 6 HDDs (2TB+ only ) \| NVIDIA GeForce 7600GT \| Dell E248WFP 24" Widescreen \| Blog : Dashken's I-Blog Gallery : Dashken's I-Paintings

20th Dec 2005, 10:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,661 Reputation: 3984 Rep Power: 72	Duh, of course compare specs side by side la. If not, find specs for what? Yes, dpreview has side by side comparison, but do we? Our products vary so much it's virtually impossible to maintain a usable database like our current graphics card guide. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

20th Dec 2005, 10:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
Adrian Wong Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my BenQ Joybook 7000 notebook! Posts: 29,939 Reputation: 2958 Rep Power: 65	Yeah, it would not be possible to do side-by-side comparisons. Even if we just compare a single product with another product in the same category, some may question our choice of product used in the comparison.. or why we only keep it to a single side-by-side comparison. What a headache. __________________ Dr. Adrian Wong Tech ARP \| Blog @ Tech ARP \| The Free Trade Zone DYKT : The only offshore account I have is at the sand bank? Keep Tech ARP free! Visit our sponsors! We need PROGRAMMERS and TECHNICAL WRITERS! Contact us if you are a hot shot programmer or technical writer! My items for sale : 50x SD Card \| Memory Stick PRO \| Cyclone Energy Saver \| Seiko SS watch \| Tiger/Carlsberg beer jugs \| Travel Speakers \| Motorola V600 \| Nokia N90 SOLD! \| New Lowepro Mini Trekker AW Other items for sale @ the FTZ : Zalman CNPS9500 LED @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7700 Cu @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7000 Cu @ $20 \| Swarovski bracelet watches \| Dell 17" LCD \| Hi-Fi speakers \| English DIVX movies \| HP LaserJet toners! \| Office chairs

21st Dec 2005, 03:16 AM	#18 (permalink)
Max_87 h@x! Join Date: 11 Aug 2003 Location: Sarawak, Malaysia. Posts: 11,261 Reputation: 2024 Rep Power: 37	If I really want to look for specifications, I usually go to the manufacturer website. If not, I would look for it in reviews. Okay, why do I think it is pointless? because you listed the specifications in the overview page and then inside the review you listed it again. Er.... I don't see any point here. If you think that I might not find the specs that easily in the review, nope. I can easily navigate and find the specifications through the quick link menu. Plus, telling me what is contained inside the box is pretty much pointless also, because I want to actually see the components, the picss .........and it feels like you are advertising the product also __________________ Max_87 Tech ARP http://www.techarp.com P4 630 / Abit IP35 Pro / G.Skill F2-8000CL5-4GBPQ / Radeon X1800 / Barracuda 7200.9 120GB / 7200.10 320GB x2 / Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS / WD6400AAKS x2 / Dell 2007FP x2 / Silverstone ST56F

21st Dec 2005, 08:12 AM	#19 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,661 Reputation: 3984 Rep Power: 72	Although I don't really like the idea of pictorial review, but it serves a lot more purpose than product overview because we have the actual product in hand, and pictures can tell a lot of stories. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

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