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neverthar · 4th Mar 2007, 09:48 PM

It's more to heat I guess as lots of people like to use their laptops placed on their beds which causes huge heatsoaks which is also the main cause to many lappie H/w failure including (You better believe this) wifi module failure

Adrian Wong · 4th Mar 2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by neverthar

It's more to heat I guess as lots of people like to use their laptops placed on their beds which causes huge heatsoaks which is also the main cause to many lappie H/w failure including (You better believe this) wifi module failure

Yeah, heat is a big killer. But I've seen people abuse their notebooks in ways that make me wince.

It's amazing their hard drives are still not dead from all the knocks and shocks.

brajko2 · 5th Mar 2007, 06:13 PM

ChampionLLY: I know it's bad when it happens, and there's more chance something will go wrong on a hard drive which frequently moves and has lot of vibrations. As I said, laptop manufacturers should produce laptops with RAID capability

But the main point I was trying to say, storage world will have to develop some new technology. 1 Tera of data is really good for everyone storage needs, but hopefully you wouldn't have to recover part of data from it. 'Cause it will cost more then an arm and leg

ChampionLLY · 5th Mar 2007, 07:06 PM

there are laptops with RAID0/1

Adrian Wong · 6th Mar 2007, 01:53 AM

Hmm.. RAID is one way of improving reliability. But it's also a very expensive way to do it.

IMHO, if you want to keep your notebook hard drives running long and reliably, cool your notebook with a good notebook cooler and don't move notebook about while it's running.

Yeah, you probably like using it on your bed or pick it up and walk everywhere. But all those shocks and jostling is a good way to kill your notebook hard drive.

Chai · 6th Mar 2007, 08:44 AM

I just read an article about HDD cooling not the best way to improve reliability.

Adrian Wong · 6th Mar 2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chai

I just read an article about HDD cooling not the best way to improve reliability.

Where? Heat is definitely a major killer of hard drives...

Chai · 6th Mar 2007, 06:32 PM

http://www.computerworld.com/action/...leId=9012 066

Adrian Wong · 6th Mar 2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chai

http://www.computerworld.com/action/...leId=9012 066

Hmm.. It just quotes the study, but never mentioned the conditions in which the study was conducted.

Incidentally, I wonder if a study in a specially-cooled data center can really show the effect of heat on a hard drive...

But I agree with them on a few points. Temperature changes is a bigger problem than merely higher temperatures. As long as the working temperature is within the specified range, the drive should work reliably. I think the problem lies when you exceed the working temperature of the bearing and the motor.

Also, I believe they are right in that FC drives should really not be any more reliable than normal SATA drives. The interface really doesn't have any difference on drive reliability...

ChampionLLY · 6th Mar 2007, 08:39 PM

hmm... my hdd has been very hot for a few weeks..
shock is erm all the time =P

but that doesnt explain how come i hibernate it (all SMART ok) den wakeup the next morning & it died leh...

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brajko2 Just Started Join Date: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 32 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	ChampionLLY: I know it's bad when it happens, and there's more chance something will go wrong on a hard drive which frequently moves and has lot of vibrations. As I said, laptop manufacturers should produce laptops with RAID capability But the main point I was trying to say, storage world will have to develop some new technology. 1 Tera of data is really good for everyone storage needs, but hopefully you wouldn't have to recover part of data from it. 'Cause it will cost more then an arm and leg

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ChampionLLY News Writer Join Date: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 1,306 Reputation: 757 Rep Power: 12	there are laptops with RAID0/1

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ChampionLLY News Writer Join Date: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 1,306 Reputation: 757 Rep Power: 12	hmm... my hdd has been very hot for a few weeks.. shock is erm all the time =P but that doesnt explain how come i hibernate it (all SMART ok) den wakeup the next morning & it died leh...