Microsoft Vista Beta 2 Review! - Page 3

Max_87 · 12th Jul 2006, 12:59 AM

ROFL!

I was trying to install the driver for 6800GT btw. I ended up installing the driver manually.

Adrian Wong · 12th Jul 2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Max_87

WTF?!?! I don't even know what OS I'm using already

LOL!! That's damn funny!!

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Setup detected that the operating system in use is not Windows Vista.

Daddyo · 23rd Jul 2006, 11:29 AM

I generally agree with your article on Vista Beta 2. I find XP to be superior. Simpler usually is better. I believe that Microsoft is attempting to secure their software from the user. I use the software to do specific tasks; data manipulation, some games, etc. I often use Windows Explorer to view, find, move, and organize data. Many folders are no longer accessible. The process to change permissions is long, involved, and must be repeated for each folder, and subfolder. The process to view and/or change settings in many areas has been changed for the worse; lengthened, hidden, etc.. There are no clear roadmaps and things are not logically organized.
With the pretty visuals and the attempts to turn the computer into a jukebox/television, the things that I use the computer for are being phased out, or at least put on the back burner. I downloaded both the 64 and 32 bit versions of Vista Beta 2. They were both SLOW. I like to have as few processes running in the background as possible in order to speed things I am using up. Vista does the opposite. In some cases I can't even be certain what it is doing to require the hard drive and processor to work so much.
I have this horrible feeling based on the way things are heading that Microsoft might even try to start charging a monthly fee to use it's software for all your internet, media, news, and communications instead of you just purchasing it.. Oops! Did I type that instead of just thinking it? I only had each version installed for a few days before wiping them. They were generally a pain and even if very familiar with them, it still takes more steps and a longer time to acomplish the same old tasks.
The new Internet Explorer appears to visually be a rip off of Firefox. The one decent thing that was useful was the miniature views of minimized pages as you move the mouse over them. I don't see much else to crow about. Nope... I think I'll stick to XP with a Linux distribution or two on the side.

GrumpyOne · 1st Aug 2006, 08:45 AM

Good evening all...

I'm going in circles here and talking to myself more and more. I'm going to blame this action on my inability to locate Parts 1 and 2 of the article "Microsoft Windows Vista Beta 2".

Dashken had a couple links in his posts pointing to Part 2 and 3, but both lead to Part 3.

Any help locating the first 2 parts of this article will be greatly appreciated

Always found it less confusing reading the book front to back and not the other way around

Sorry for the novice behaviour...that makes me grumpy

Adrian Wong · 1st Aug 2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOne

Good evening all...

I'm going in circles here and talking to myself more and more. I'm going to blame this action on my inability to locate Parts 1 and 2 of the article "Microsoft Windows Vista Beta 2".

Dashken had a couple links in his posts pointing to Part 2 and 3, but both lead to Part 3.

Any help locating the first 2 parts of this article will be greatly appreciated

Always found it less confusing reading the book front to back and not the other way around

Sorry for the novice behaviour...that makes me grumpy

Ahh sorry, it's actually one BIG article... so we posted it in parts. There's no need to go looking for the other parts - it's all in there.

GrumpyOne · 2nd Aug 2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Ahh sorry, it's actually one BIG article... so we posted it in parts. There's no need to go looking for the other parts - it's all in there.

Thanks so much for the clarification

Now I can settle in with a refreshment and read Revision 3 to the article

Can't beleive I've been holding out for the other parts before starting

Adrian Wong · 2nd Aug 2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOne

Thanks so much for the clarification

Now I can settle in with a refreshment and read Revision 3 to the article

Can't beleive I've been holding out for the other parts before starting

Hehe.. No problem.

The final part's coming up BTW. But don't wait for it. You can read the first three parts!

1031982 · 2nd Aug 2006, 01:43 PM

Well, after reading the review, I can say that it seems like a decent OS, just nothing real special. Sure, it's graphically better, and some useful tools are there, but overall, it's just a graphic improvement. The way things have been laid out in places are nice, but an entire OS for that kind of improvement? I just don't see it being worth while. Seems that overall, the ARP reviewers have the same feeling as well. XP does just about everything Vista will do, takes up less space, needs less hardware, and in general allows more flexibility. As said in the review, it's like a 95 to 98 upgrade. All visuals, and minor updates that could have been put into XP.

Chai · 2nd Aug 2006, 07:20 PM

I think the fresh new look and the added features are worth the upgrade...haha...especially when my system is good enough to handle Vista.

Dashken · 2nd Aug 2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Hehe.. No problem.

The final part's coming up BTW. But don't wait for it. You can read the first three parts!

LOL! I think next time we should use revision instead to avoid the confusion.

12th Jul 2006, 12:59 AM	#21 (permalink)
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23rd Jul 2006, 11:29 AM	#23 (permalink)
Daddyo Newbie Join Date: 23 Jul 2006 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Too Much! I generally agree with your article on Vista Beta 2. I find XP to be superior. Simpler usually is better. I believe that Microsoft is attempting to secure their software from the user. I use the software to do specific tasks; data manipulation, some games, etc. I often use Windows Explorer to view, find, move, and organize data. Many folders are no longer accessible. The process to change permissions is long, involved, and must be repeated for each folder, and subfolder. The process to view and/or change settings in many areas has been changed for the worse; lengthened, hidden, etc.. There are no clear roadmaps and things are not logically organized. With the pretty visuals and the attempts to turn the computer into a jukebox/television, the things that I use the computer for are being phased out, or at least put on the back burner. I downloaded both the 64 and 32 bit versions of Vista Beta 2. They were both SLOW. I like to have as few processes running in the background as possible in order to speed things I am using up. Vista does the opposite. In some cases I can't even be certain what it is doing to require the hard drive and processor to work so much. I have this horrible feeling based on the way things are heading that Microsoft might even try to start charging a monthly fee to use it's software for all your internet, media, news, and communications instead of you just purchasing it.. Oops! Did I type that instead of just thinking it? I only had each version installed for a few days before wiping them. They were generally a pain and even if very familiar with them, it still takes more steps and a longer time to acomplish the same old tasks. The new Internet Explorer appears to visually be a rip off of Firefox. The one decent thing that was useful was the miniature views of minimized pages as you move the mouse over them. I don't see much else to crow about. Nope... I think I'll stick to XP with a Linux distribution or two on the side.

2nd Aug 2006, 01:43 PM	#28 (permalink)
1031982 Super Active Join Date: 25 Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,628 Reputation: 285 Rep Power: 10	Well, after reading the review, I can say that it seems like a decent OS, just nothing real special. Sure, it's graphically better, and some useful tools are there, but overall, it's just a graphic improvement. The way things have been laid out in places are nice, but an entire OS for that kind of improvement? I just don't see it being worth while. Seems that overall, the ARP reviewers have the same feeling as well. XP does just about everything Vista will do, takes up less space, needs less hardware, and in general allows more flexibility. As said in the review, it's like a 95 to 98 upgrade. All visuals, and minor updates that could have been put into XP. __________________ Running : Gigabyte EP45-DS3R, Intel E7200 C2D, 4GB DDR2 Dual Channel, WD Raptor 74GB, WD 500 GB HDD, ASUS 16X DVD-ROM, LiteOn 16X DVD+/-RW, 1.44 MB Floppy, ATI Radeon HD 4850, Dell 2005FPW, and a SB Audigy2 ZS PRO with Logitech Z5300e speakers.

2nd Aug 2006, 07:20 PM	#29 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 27,884 Reputation: 4630 Rep Power: 81	I think the fresh new look and the added features are worth the upgrade...haha...especially when my system is good enough to handle Vista. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

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1st Aug 2006, 08:45 AM	#24 (permalink)
GrumpyOne Newbie Join Date: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 13 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Good evening all... I'm going in circles here and talking to myself more and more. I'm going to blame this action on my inability to locate Parts 1 and 2 of the article "Microsoft Windows Vista Beta 2". Dashken had a couple links in his posts pointing to Part 2 and 3, but both lead to Part 3. Any help locating the first 2 parts of this article will be greatly appreciated Always found it less confusing reading the book front to back and not the other way around Sorry for the novice behaviour...that makes me grumpy