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| Administrator! Join Date: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Penang
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Reputation: 2352 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Rep Power: 60 | This guide was written in response to the numerous fallacies about the hard disk that are still being propagated in many forum discussions. Although many articles have covered these topics, it is apparent that hard disk urban legends are still more popular than the simple truth. So, let's get down to basics and examine some of these common fallacies or myths and debunk them! Link : Hard Disk Drive Myths Debunked
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| Warming up Join Date: 20 Jul 2005
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Reputation: 28 ![]() Rep Power: 0 | Wow! Awesome guide man! This has answered a TON of questions I had about HDD's. I have forwarded to all my computer friends for reference. I look forward to this being updated even more. Also, let's say I had a computer that was running a torrent client so it constantly had new files being added to the hard drive every day. Would it hurt the hard drive to defrag it every 3-7 days? I would be using perfectdisk 7 if you need to know.
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| Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my ASUS F8V notebook!
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Reputation: 3531 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Rep Power: 75 | Quote:
Nope, even defragging that frequently should not hurt it at all. In a way, frequent defragging is actually less stressful because each defrag session would take much less time than a long-delayed defrag.
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Reputation: 0 ![]() Rep Power: 0 | That's a really useful guide! Oh.. You mentioned that formatting does not help increase the PC's performance. But.. if defragging does not improve the PC performance... should I format the PC then? |
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| Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my ASUS F8V notebook!
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Reputation: 3531 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Rep Power: 75 | Actually, the article didn't say that. I only mentioned that formatting won't kill your hard drive. Neither will defragging it.
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Reputation: 0 ![]() Rep Power: 0 | Formatting can increase ur PC performance when there are too many junks hogging ur system and u dunno which one is the culprit. Formatting just make ur PC having a clean start again. |
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| Hold me back! I can't stop posting!!! Join Date: 17 May 2003 Location: pj
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Reputation: 179 ![]() ![]() Rep Power: 13 | well, what about the myth of drive temperature vs failure rate? extracted findings from this page: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6376021.stm Quote:
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edit: link to the report itself: http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf edit no 2: looks like the low temperature part appears to be higher in the report because it includes a larger range of temperatures from 15-30c while every other category only has a range of 5c, but this still does not explain the minimum failure rate for the first 3 years at the 35-40c level it looks like the 30-45c region(well, i'm extrapolating this to only apply to malaysia's temperatures) is the optimal temperature to store the drives in from the report itself
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| Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my ASUS F8V notebook!
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Reputation: 3531 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Rep Power: 75 | Hmm.. That's in reference to server hard drives, which by default, are designed to be a lot more robust than desktop drives. Also, it refers to server room conditions where systems are kept cooled below ambient temperature. Since we are mostly desktop users, it's unlikely for us to achieve lower temps like 15oC unless it's winter and we refuse to turn on the heat. When I wrote about heat killing hard drives, I was really referring to high drive temperatures, not high ambient temperatures. Drives are more likely to die if they are continuously operating at a high temperature (around 70-80oC?). The point is not to achieve a temperature that's below ambient but to lower down the drive's temperature to as close to ambient as possible. I would personally be happy if I can keep my hard drives below 45oC.
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| Hold me back! I can't stop posting!!! Join Date: 17 May 2003 Location: pj
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The disks are a combination of serial and parallel ATA consumer-grade hard disk drives, ranging in speed from 5400 to 7200 rpm, and in size from 80 to 400 GB. All units in this study were put into production in or after 2001. The population contains several models from many of the largest disk drive manufacturers and from at least nine different models. The data used for this study were collected between December 2005 and August 2006. and while it may be true that there are those RE(enterprise edition series by western digital) editions and stuff, somehow i believe that they're referring to the hard drives that are used by us consumers as i don't believe there are any RE editions of hard drives which are 3 or more years old i don't dispute the 75-80c level, but i'm just questioning the logic of worrying about temperatures say, for a typical system in malaysia, 40c-50c for hard drives and people recommending others to get hard drive coolers as it will supposedly lengthen the lifespan of the hard drive while this report points out otherwise edit: drive temperatures are taken from SMART
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| Just Started Join Date: 29 Jun 2006
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Reputation: 0 ![]() Rep Power: 0 | The guide did not mention the type of format used. There's a "Quick" and "Full" format in Windows. As I know, quick format does not detect bad sector. Does quick format erase the location of the bad sectors previously detected? Which type of format is recommended when doing a reformat? |
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