NVIDIA GeForce To Quadro Soft-Mod Guide

[emersonbottero]

i just acquired this Geforce NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0611.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT", but i can't softmod it as a NVIDIA_G92.DEV_061A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700" becouse the low level System tweak windows shows only the Fan tab. Am i doing something wrong?

[dude2]

Beyond emulating and applying Quadro drivers on GeForce cards, I believe making sure what are the h/w limitations of GeForce cards is of essential importance. Therefore, I posted a message on Autodesk.

Please refer to h_t_t_p://area.autodesk.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/15350/

[generalRage1982hrv]

Originally Posted by dude2

Beyond emulating and applying Quadro drivers on GeForce cards, I believe making sure what are the h/w limitations of GeForce cards is of essential importance. Therefore, I posted a message on Autodesk.

Please refer to h_t_t_p://area.autodesk.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/15350/

as i can see you think that quadro driver should boost gpu to max ?? nah you are wrong
it is just boosting 3dmax and rest of programs
game are different thing you will lose 5-15% on performance there mainly because driver is a code that tells your gpu what to do and in this case is boosting 3dmax and rest of programs (not games)
so people stop asking stupid questions i allready gave answare
if you are trying to show your self smarter than others you are doing it on wrong place
your ignorence is showing you that you are ...........

PEOPLE THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE POSTS FOR ???
WELL FIRST READ THEM ALL AND YOU WILL FIND YOUR ANSWARE THERE
SO NO MORE ASKING SAME QUESTIONS OK?

[dude2]

I was searching an answer on h/w limitations of GeForce cards based on the following reasons:

(1)Some articles revealed the softmod limitation of GeForce 7000,8000, and 9000 series

>>
GF 6800 was the last one that could be softmoded to Quadro fx 4000. I did it. Sure it was faster in SPECheatYouTest in OpenGL, but under regular work in Max in D3D there was no speed difference. Not because the softmod failed (since it didn’t and SPECheatYouTest will certify that in its cheating OpenGL methodology), but because there is no real difference in the cards themselves- hence the mod was even possible.
After it, nvidia locked the softmoding out, but by than, no one should really have cared. D3D was a long standing 3DS Max part and it worked fully with all the recent cards- geforce 256 (the very first geforce) and up.<<
extracted from: h_t_t_p://area.autodesk.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/15350/

(2)For GeForce and Quadro, if the D3D part is not different and the OGL part is hardware locked, then how much OGL functions are locked out in GeForce?

Bearing these two reasons in mind and leaving alone the emulation for a while, I started researching on how much difference in performance and functionality there is between Quadro and GeForce cards.

Below is what I have gathered so far:

[Difference on D3D and OGL between GeForce and Quadro]

*nVidia's email reponse -> Users can generally use 8800 GT on 3ds Max or Maya type drawings or animations and GeForce cards do support the same D3D and OpenGL functions just like Quadro FX series, but both NVIDIA and the CAD vendors strongly recommend against doing this.

*Autodesk's 3ds Max/Maya web site -> GeForce users may experience various refresh, display and stability problems and inadequate performance.

*One experienced user's input -> There is no difference in practice on D3D 3ds Max; OGL is not fully practiced.


Need to find:

1. from NVidia:
How will the nVidia locked out hardware part affect the functionality of GeForce cards? Could it only affect OGL but not D3D?

2. from AutoDesk:
What are those various refresh and display problems? Can Autodesk elaborate on these problems? Are these problems common and reproducible on all GeForce cards? Or, does the “may experience” imply VARIOUS REFRESH AND DISPLAY PROBLEMS MAY NOT SHOW UP ON HIGH END GEFORCE CARDS?

Anyone on this forum is more than welcomed to add his/her findings or correct found errors before I sum up my questions and send them to NV and AD.

[Adrian Wong]

As far as I know, the limitation is not in the hardware but the driver itself. The GeForce and Quadro cards are functionally the same AFAIK. The only differences would be the labels and of course, the BIOS (or any other identifier) that NVIDIA uses to discriminate between a true Quadro and a GeForce.

[dude2]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

As far as I know, the limitation is not in the hardware but the driver itself. The GeForce and Quadro cards are functionally the same AFAIK. The only differences would be the labels and of course, the BIOS (or any other identifier) that NVIDIA uses to discriminate between a true Quadro and a GeForce.

NVidia customer support only told me that...
>>users can generally use 8800 GT on 3ds Max or Maya type drawings or animations and GeForce cards do support the same D3D and OpenGL functions just like Quadro FX series, but both NVIDIA and the CAD vendors strongly recommend against doing this.<<

However, recently when I asked NVidia about how updated the Technical Brief "NVIDIA Quadro vs. GeForce GPUs" is, NVidia admitted that Tech Brief is to be updated to reflect the change. Based on that document though, there are some h/w functionality differences.

May I know where you have learned that they are only different on labels and BIOS?

[generalRage1982hrv]

Originally Posted by dude2

NVidia customer support only told me that...
>>users can generally use 8800 GT on 3ds Max or Maya type drawings or animations and GeForce cards do support the same D3D and OpenGL functions just like Quadro FX series, but both NVIDIA and the CAD vendors strongly recommend against doing this.<<

However, recently when I asked NVidia about how updated the Technical Brief "NVIDIA Quadro vs. GeForce GPUs" is, NVidia admitted that Tech Brief is to be updated to reflect the change. Based on that document though, there are some h/w functionality differences.

May I know where you have learned that they are only different on labels and BIOS?

well how i see you are asking auto cad and nvidia staff about some things
as i told you before difference is not that big . why? mostly because i had that card on my hands and i made some tests with it
it is same as GTX. why is same as gtx? pcb and it parts are 99% same only difference is on ddr3 chips and few more resistors (differnce in resistors ohm-s mostly because of different ddr3 chips and voltage chips)

before posting any more questions
you need firts to tell me who are you and why all of this b***** are you asking
if you are trying to make any point or to show us what are
you aiming on, tell us without any b*****

[dude2]

If anyone has a GeForce card or has tested it thoroughly and know the difference between GF and Quadro, welcome to share the knowledge and let us know the difference even there may be only 1 or 2 percents difference between them.

Devil is in the detail, thus why asking.

[generalRage1982hrv]

Originally Posted by dude2

If anyone has a GeForce card or has tested it thoroughly and know the difference between GF and Quadro, welcome to share the knowledge and let us know the difference even there may be only 1 or 2 percents difference between them.

Devil is in the detail, thus why asking.

as i see that you dident check anything and you are making truble LOL
dude2 first read guide compleatly
than your low percepcion would see that users did test it LOL
and that users posted their results

[PsYkHoTiK]

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