Desktop Graphics Card Comparison Guide - Page 13

Olle P · 26th Jul 2005, 10:10 PM

In the nVidia section you have an entry labeled GeForce 3 Ti.
There has never been any such GPU, but a plain GeForce 3 that came last before the Ti-series (GF2 Ti, GF3 Ti200 and GF3 Ti500).

/Olle

Max_87 · 26th Jul 2005, 10:52 PM

You're right, thanks Olle P

http://techreport.com/reviews/2001q4...s/index.x?pg=4

I will re-label it as GeForce3 in the next update.

Dingo · 27th Jul 2005, 12:45 PM

Hey guys, just followed a link to this from elitebastards.com

I love the guide, however I think I may have a few errors to point out.

The ATi Rage PRO was availible in both AGP and PCI varients. (I know this because I own both). As well, there are more offerings that you are missing. Such as the RageIIC, RageIIC+DVD, and Rage Pro Turbo (However, the Turbo is just a Rage Pro Chipset, they renamed it because of a driver update)

Additionally, I have never seen or heard of a PCI Rage Fury MAXX. If such a beast exists, I truely would like to see it.

There were several variations of the Rage128 chipset. A budget Rage128VR, the standard Rage128GL, and the "high performance" Rage128 PRO. The main difference was clock speed, however the Rage128VR only had a 64bit memory interface.

The Radeon products (Radeon, RadeonLE, Radeon SDR, etc etc etc) are all R100. The ones I am talking about are listed as N/A on your list.

I noticed this posted before, but I didn't see if anybody replied. The nVidia Geforce4 series did not support DirectX 8.1. I know Tom's Hardware says it does, but it's just not the case. DX 8.1 support requires PS 1.4 support, and the GF4 series only suppports PS 1.3. I own an 8500 and I remember quite vividly the raging debates between nVidiots and fanATics.

The Voodoo Banshee was also availible in both AGP and PCI varients.

Wow, I didn't realize I was going to post so much. Sorry to have my first post be corrections, hopefully I can add this site to my regular rotation. As well, if I am wrong, I would really like to know.

Cheers!

Adrian Wong · 27th Jul 2005, 02:37 PM

Hello Dingo!

Thanks for letting us know about those mistakes! Will correct them ASAP.

Do let us know if you find anything else!

Thanks!

Olle P · 27th Jul 2005, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingo

The ATi Rage PRO was availible in both AGP and PCI varients. ...

My first 3D was an ATI Rage Pro LT, 2xAGP with the chips integrated on the mobo. (In a Compaq Presario 5800, IIRC.)

There are other possible mistakes in the list of nVidia stuff:
GeForce FX 5900 is listed at least thrice, as ZT, SE/XT and "plain". On top of that is Ultra.
- I know for a fact that the only difference between the plain version and SE/XT (and don't forget LE) is clock and memory speed (cost), which isn't counted for in the list. The GPUs are identical! Neither of the addon letter combinations are official nVidia designations but made up by the card producers.
- I suspect ZT, which I've never heard about, also fit nicely into this group.
- I don't know the Ultra version that well. Perhaps that's just an overclocked "plain" 5900 with faster memory?

If the comparison guide is supposed to be a GPU comparison, then there's no need to differentiate these 5900s. Otherwise you'd better list core and memory speeds as well.

I also suspect that the GPU "reuse" utilised for the 5900 series apply to other nVidia GPUs as well.

/Olle

Chai · 27th Jul 2005, 10:53 PM

Well, it's the same for 6800 GT and 6800 Ultra, or even 6800 if you include the broken pipelines.

Max_87 · 27th Jul 2005, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingo

Hey guys, just followed a link to this from elitebastards.com

I love the guide, however I think I may have a few errors to point out.

The ATi Rage PRO was availible in both AGP and PCI varients. (I know this because I own both). As well, there are more offerings that you are missing. Such as the RageIIC, RageIIC+DVD, and Rage Pro Turbo (However, the Turbo is just a Rage Pro Chipset, they renamed it because of a driver update)

Additionally, I have never seen or heard of a PCI Rage Fury MAXX. If such a beast exists, I truely would like to see it.

There were several variations of the Rage128 chipset. A budget Rage128VR, the standard Rage128GL, and the "high performance" Rage128 PRO. The main difference was clock speed, however the Rage128VR only had a 64bit memory interface.

The Radeon products (Radeon, RadeonLE, Radeon SDR, etc etc etc) are all R100. The ones I am talking about are listed as N/A on your list.

I noticed this posted before, but I didn't see if anybody replied. The nVidia Geforce4 series did not support DirectX 8.1. I know Tom's Hardware says it does, but it's just not the case. DX 8.1 support requires PS 1.4 support, and the GF4 series only suppports PS 1.3. I own an 8500 and I remember quite vividly the raging debates between nVidiots and fanATics.

The Voodoo Banshee was also availible in both AGP and PCI varients.

Wow, I didn't realize I was going to post so much. Sorry to have my first post be corrections, hopefully I can add this site to my regular rotation. As well, if I am wrong, I would really like to know.

Cheers!

Hey thanks for informing us about the mistake. If you spotted any mistake or you have something to add into the guide please email to me or post here

Please check your PM box

Dashken · 5th Aug 2005, 08:54 PM

The guide has just been updated!

Covering over 230 desktop graphics cards, this comprehensive comparison allows you to easily compare 15 different specifications for each and every card! If you need to find out about the specification of any card, just come over and check out our Desktop Graphics Comparison Guide!

We hope it will prove to be a useful reference. We will keep this guide updated regularly so do check back for the latest updates!

Here are the updates:-

Added the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 and Graphics Media Accelerator 900.
Added the ATI Rage 128 VR and Rage 128 GL.
Added the Architecture specifications for ATI Radeon SDR, Radeon DDR and AIW Radeon DDR.
Corrected the Architecture specifications for ATI Radeon VE.
Corrected the Pixel/Texture Pipelines specifications for the Riva TNT and TNT2 series.
Relabelled NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti as NVIDIA GeForce 3.
Corrected the Interface specifications for ATI 3D Rage Pro and Rage Fury MAXX.
Corrected the Interface specifications for ATI Radeon X700, X700 LE, X700 Pro and X700 XT.
Corrected the DirectX Support specifications for the GeForce4 Ti series.
Corrected the Interface specifications for 3dfx Voodoo Banshee.

Link : Desktop Graphics Card Comparison Guide Rev. 9.1!

adeptus · 21st Aug 2005, 01:47 PM

You have missed Diamond Multimedia(http://www.diamondmm.com/) and some older Matrox cards as the original Matrox Millenium cards and the Mystique cards.

EDIT:

Take a look at this list:

http://ildp.pluto.linux.it/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO-26.html

Bestia(ry) · 21st Aug 2005, 02:11 PM

The question is if it is necessary/useful to add the full range of PCI-gfx as well.
'Cause then we'd need to add NumberNine, Trident, CirrusLogic, Miro, Spea and so on and on and on .. better said a hell lot of work (taking probably years ^^).
Do ppl need this information nowadays?
Personally I dun think so.

26th Jul 2005, 10:10 PM	#121 (permalink)
Olle P Active Join Date: 12 Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 815 Reputation: 315 Rep Power: 7	I spotted a mistake! In the nVidia section you have an entry labeled GeForce 3 Ti. There has never been any such GPU, but a plain GeForce 3 that came last before the Ti-series (GF2 Ti, GF3 Ti200 and GF3 Ti500). /Olle

26th Jul 2005, 10:52 PM	#122 (permalink)
Max_87 h@x! Join Date: 11 Aug 2003 Location: Sarawak, Malaysia. Posts: 11,288 Reputation: 2024 Rep Power: 37	You're right, thanks Olle P http://techreport.com/reviews/2001q4...s/index.x?pg=4 I will re-label it as GeForce3 in the next update. __________________ Max_87 Tech ARP http://www.techarp.com P4 630 / Abit IP35 Pro / G.Skill F2-8000CL5-4GBPQ / Radeon X1800 / Barracuda 7200.9 120GB / 7200.10 320GB x2 / Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS / WD6400AAKS x2 / Dell 2007FP x2 / Silverstone ST56F

27th Jul 2005, 12:45 PM	#123 (permalink)
Dingo Newbie Join Date: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 3 Reputation: 11 Rep Power: 0	Hey guys, just followed a link to this from elitebastards.com I love the guide, however I think I may have a few errors to point out. The ATi Rage PRO was availible in both AGP and PCI varients. (I know this because I own both). As well, there are more offerings that you are missing. Such as the RageIIC, RageIIC+DVD, and Rage Pro Turbo (However, the Turbo is just a Rage Pro Chipset, they renamed it because of a driver update) Additionally, I have never seen or heard of a PCI Rage Fury MAXX. If such a beast exists, I truely would like to see it. There were several variations of the Rage128 chipset. A budget Rage128VR, the standard Rage128GL, and the "high performance" Rage128 PRO. The main difference was clock speed, however the Rage128VR only had a 64bit memory interface. The Radeon products (Radeon, RadeonLE, Radeon SDR, etc etc etc) are all R100. The ones I am talking about are listed as N/A on your list. I noticed this posted before, but I didn't see if anybody replied. The nVidia Geforce4 series did not support DirectX 8.1. I know Tom's Hardware says it does, but it's just not the case. DX 8.1 support requires PS 1.4 support, and the GF4 series only suppports PS 1.3. I own an 8500 and I remember quite vividly the raging debates between nVidiots and fanATics. The Voodoo Banshee was also availible in both AGP and PCI varients. Wow, I didn't realize I was going to post so much. Sorry to have my first post be corrections, hopefully I can add this site to my regular rotation. As well, if I am wrong, I would really like to know. Cheers! Last edited by Dingo : 27th Jul 2005 at 01:01 PM.

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Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,757 Reputation: 3984 Rep Power: 72	Well, it's the same for 6800 GT and 6800 Ultra, or even 6800 if you include the broken pipelines. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

5th Aug 2005, 08:54 PM	#128 (permalink)
Dashken Administrator! Join Date: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Penang Posts: 29,758 Reputation: 2162 Rep Power: 56	Desktop Graphics Card Comparison Guide Rev. 9.1! The guide has just been updated! Covering over 230 desktop graphics cards, this comprehensive comparison allows you to easily compare 15 different specifications for each and every card! If you need to find out about the specification of any card, just come over and check out our Desktop Graphics Comparison Guide! We hope it will prove to be a useful reference. We will keep this guide updated regularly so do check back for the latest updates! Here are the updates:- Added the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 and Graphics Media Accelerator 900. Added the ATI Rage 128 VR and Rage 128 GL. Added the Architecture specifications for ATI Radeon SDR, Radeon DDR and AIW Radeon DDR. Corrected the Architecture specifications for ATI Radeon VE. Corrected the Pixel/Texture Pipelines specifications for the Riva TNT and TNT2 series. Relabelled NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti as NVIDIA GeForce 3. Corrected the Interface specifications for ATI 3D Rage Pro and Rage Fury MAXX. Corrected the Interface specifications for ATI Radeon X700, X700 LE, X700 Pro and X700 XT. Corrected the DirectX Support specifications for the GeForce4 Ti series. Corrected the Interface specifications for 3dfx Voodoo Banshee. Link : Desktop Graphics Card Comparison Guide Rev. 9.1! __________________ \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.2Ghz \| ASUS P5B-E Plus \| G.SKILL 2x1GB DDR2 800 \| 6 HDDs (2TB+ only ) \| NVIDIA GeForce 7600GT \| Dell E248WFP 24" Widescreen \| Blog : Dashken's I-Blog Gallery : Dashken's I-Paintings Last edited by Dashken : 5th Aug 2005 at 09:12 PM.

21st Aug 2005, 01:47 PM	#129 (permalink)
adeptus Newbie Join Date: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	You have missed Diamond Multimedia(http://www.diamondmm.com/) and some older Matrox cards as the original Matrox Millenium cards and the Mystique cards. EDIT: Take a look at this list: http://ildp.pluto.linux.it/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO-26.html Last edited by adeptus : 21st Aug 2005 at 01:54 PM.

21st Aug 2005, 02:11 PM	#130 (permalink)
Bestia(ry) Fenrisulfr Join Date: 11 Oct 2004 Location: Lyngvi Posts: 2,217 Reputation: 1510 Rep Power: 22	The question is if it is necessary/useful to add the full range of PCI-gfx as well. 'Cause then we'd need to add NumberNine, Trident, CirrusLogic, Miro, Spea and so on and on and on .. better said a hell lot of work (taking probably years ^^). Do ppl need this information nowadays? Personally I dun think so. __________________ Gods. Men. Beast alike.