Desktop Graphics Card Comparison Guide - Page 21

Chai · 23rd Jul 2006, 09:50 PM

Hmm...but does 16 pixel shader engine = 16 pixel pipeline in real world? Look at the X1900XTX, it doesn't perform like 48 pixel shader engine.

Dashken · 23rd Jul 2006, 10:15 PM

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Covering almost 280 desktop graphics cards, this comprehensive comparison allows you to easily compare 17 different specifications for each and every card! If you need to find out about the specification of any card, just come over and check out our Desktop Graphics Comparison Guide!

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- Added the ATI Radeon X1950 XTX & X1950 CrossFire cards.
- Added the ATI Radeon X1650 Pro & X1650 XT cards.
- Updated the Architecture specifications for ATI Radeon X1900 GT.
- Corrected the Memory Type Specifications for NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS.
- Total cards : 279

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ChampionLLY · 23rd Jul 2006, 10:31 PM

okok... i get the idea but i duno wad does a pixel pipe or a pixel shader does.. lol

that means now cannot see fill rate to determine performance, muz look @ reviews..

eh, X1650 & X1950 out alreadi ah..
thought they said mid-Aug den annouce.. =S

Chai · 23rd Jul 2006, 11:34 PM

Announce and release is not the same.

Max_87 · 24th Jul 2006, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chai

Hmm...but does 16 pixel shader engine = 16 pixel pipeline in real world? Look at the X1900XTX, it doesn't perform like 48 pixel shader engine.

No, I don't think so

the 7900GTX, even with smaller number of pixel shaders are still able to keep up with X1900XTX. Although overall I would say X1900XTX has a slight performance edge.

Maybe current games still could not make good use of the 48 pixel shaders on X1900XTX? or maybe they are not even optimized properly at all

thomasxstewart · 24th Jul 2006, 05:43 AM

So many readers think theres error if their exact gamecard specs are not listed. That is not case. Each game card is first off, controllers that are sold by engineering firm. Those game card manufacturers then use those controller chips in what ever way they can devise. Number of returned "FRIED" controllers exceeds number of burgers sold by those golden arches. Each time controllers goes out of parameters, that level of support is withdrawn from engineering specifications. However, lots of cards are still sitting at manufacturer made to that "Loser" specification, probably won't be used to any level of actual damage ,losers just don't perform as well as some of other variations. So wala, outlets like ebay, which those items all are like sucking shit out of horses' ass, for quality, and others sell off poorer, low run, product, its specs being slightly differnt than agreed upon large run item that goes to returnable ,retail sources(walk in).Remember even that stuff only has to last few months before your completely without any warrentee. Yet is much more likely to run very well in very large range of machines without noticable problems. Various memory speeds are cross with slots made at each level, its just that many small run items where not as retailable as ones listed in charts, therefore closed out after first production run & never mentioned again, except by shrewd internet retailers who know even smartest bloke won't likely figure out difference between one specific make & model and same make & model from another manufacturer using same controllers that worked in one situation fine, others not as fine..

Signed

HYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK M.D.

marco_simao · 24th Jul 2006, 08:09 PM

x1k series should not be compared to a regular pipeline architecture.

In the old days a pipeline was 1 pixel setup engine, 1 texture engine and 1 rop.
Nowadays it doesnt matter because each one of those elements are not as simple.

ChampionLLY · 26th Jul 2006, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chai

Announce and release is not the same.

okok....
no wonder no details other than the name

ChampionLLY · 26th Jul 2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Max_87

No, I don't think so

the 7900GTX, even with smaller number of pixel shaders are still able to keep up with X1900XTX. Although overall I would say X1900XTX has a slight performance edge.

Maybe current games still could not make good use of the 48 pixel shaders on X1900XTX? or maybe they are not even optimized properly at all

x1900xtx sucks too much power...

ChampionLLY · 26th Jul 2006, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marco_simao

x1k series should not be compared to a regular pipeline architecture.

In the old days a pipeline was 1 pixel setup engine, 1 texture engine and 1 rop.
Nowadays it doesnt matter because each one of those elements are not as simple.

well, u cant even compare 6800gt against 6800gs on specs alone..

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24th Jul 2006, 05:43 AM	#206 (permalink)
thomasxstewart Newbie Join Date: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 3 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	So many readers think theres error if their exact gamecard specs are not listed. That is not case. Each game card is first off, controllers that are sold by engineering firm. Those game card manufacturers then use those controller chips in what ever way they can devise. Number of returned "FRIED" controllers exceeds number of burgers sold by those golden arches. Each time controllers goes out of parameters, that level of support is withdrawn from engineering specifications. However, lots of cards are still sitting at manufacturer made to that "Loser" specification, probably won't be used to any level of actual damage ,losers just don't perform as well as some of other variations. So wala, outlets like ebay, which those items all are like sucking shit out of horses' ass, for quality, and others sell off poorer, low run, product, its specs being slightly differnt than agreed upon large run item that goes to returnable ,retail sources(walk in).Remember even that stuff only has to last few months before your completely without any warrentee. Yet is much more likely to run very well in very large range of machines without noticable problems. Various memory speeds are cross with slots made at each level, its just that many small run items where not as retailable as ones listed in charts, therefore closed out after first production run & never mentioned again, except by shrewd internet retailers who know even smartest bloke won't likely figure out difference between one specific make & model and same make & model from another manufacturer using same controllers that worked in one situation fine, others not as fine.. SignedHYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK M.D.

23rd Jul 2006, 10:31 PM	#203 (permalink)
ChampionLLY News Writer Join Date: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 1,172 Reputation: 716 Rep Power: 11	okok... i get the idea but i duno wad does a pixel pipe or a pixel shader does.. lol that means now cannot see fill rate to determine performance, muz look @ reviews.. eh, X1650 & X1950 out alreadi ah.. thought they said mid-Aug den annouce.. =S

24th Jul 2006, 08:09 PM	#207 (permalink)
marco_simao Newbie Join Date: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 11 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	x1k series should not be compared to a regular pipeline architecture. In the old days a pipeline was 1 pixel setup engine, 1 texture engine and 1 rop. Nowadays it doesnt matter because each one of those elements are not as simple.