The Radeon 9800 Pro To Radeon 9800XT Mod Guide! - Page 3

Sin22 · 17th Apr 2004, 10:14 AM

Well w/cing will always help.

Remember, ATi cards benefit more in performance from a core o/c than from a memory o/c.

So just a simple 10MHz o/c can do wonders to the overall score and gameplay.

Personally,I'd upgrade the heatsink first and then watercool, but your high default vGPU is worrying IMO and may not bode well for o/cing.

-ct- · 17th Apr 2004, 10:27 AM

i had to send my ATI-built 9800pro128 in about 1 1/2 month ago

i just checked and i have samsung k4d263238e-6c2a) memory chips

guess this whole idea of a mod ain't gonna help mine eh?

any way to check what core it is without powering down and popping the hs/f off? and does simply removing the hs/f (for whatever reason, besides i was thinking of getting a better one than stock anyway - maybe go entire watercooling) have any warranty issues?
hell, this card has a 5 YEAR warranty, so sez the info sheet i got back with it. i'd hate to void that...

Chai · 17th Apr 2004, 11:05 AM

The mod is only valid for 256MB model. But you can still flash the BIOS to a 128MB XT BIOS, without enabling the OVERDRIVE and temperature monitoring function.

Sin22: I'm actually using a big heatsink now, Volcano 7 to be exact, but suprisingly, I can't even manage more than 10MHz overclock. The whole PCB still remains hot when running, and the memory chips and the back of the core is burning hot! So I'm wondering if the heatsink is doing a good job in the first place (good contact), that's why I'm considering water cooling it.

Just wondering if it's worth the effort, since my card has high VGPU, but the PCB is still very hot to touch. I hope it a temperature issue that I can fix with water cooling.

Sin22 · 17th Apr 2004, 11:37 AM

Well, in truth, I'm willing to bet that you got a dud o/cer. It happens unfortunately. W/cing it may help, but I dont think it will by much.

Chai · 17th Apr 2004, 12:43 PM

I never have luck getting a good overclocker unfortunately...sigh...

Just wondering, does your PCB feels burning hot at load?

Sin22 · 17th Apr 2004, 01:05 PM

Not at all. Only the rams feel hot.

Max_87 · 17th Apr 2004, 10:52 PM

Well, mine feels hot too

i'm already using a AMD stock heatsink and a 90mm fan

Chai · 18th Apr 2004, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin22

Not at all. Only the rams feel hot.

Hmm...if that's the case, it could still be heat issue...

-ct- · 19th Apr 2004, 05:05 AM

Chai - was that aimed at me?

i could flash to the 128MB XT BIOS? what good would that do?

for the rest - what about the warranty issue?

Chai · 19th Apr 2004, 08:29 AM

This guide is meant for 256MB, not 128MB.

Do you have an R360 core to begin with?

17th Apr 2004, 10:14 AM	#21 (permalink)
Sin22 Getting there Join Date: 14 Apr 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 165 Reputation: 36 Rep Power: 6	Well w/cing will always help. Remember, ATi cards benefit more in performance from a core o/c than from a memory o/c. So just a simple 10MHz o/c can do wonders to the overall score and gameplay. Personally,I'd upgrade the heatsink first and then watercool, but your high default vGPU is worrying IMO and may not bode well for o/cing. __________________ Aircooling History DragonOrb3 \| V7+ \| XDream \| SLK800 \| SLK900A \| MCX462-V \| SP94 \| CJC 661CA \| CNPS7000Cu \| MCX478-V \| XP90 \| Silent Tower \| Hyper 6 \| Watercooling History Cyclone 5 \| Jaron Esky (x2) \| LRWW \| LRCascade \| Maze 3 & 4 \| Turbine \| Clover \| MCW5002 \| G4 Storm \| Phase Change History Evap Tower \| Vapochill Classic \| DIY Phase-Change \| Vapochill PE \|

17th Apr 2004, 11:05 AM	#23 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 28,127 Reputation: 4649 Rep Power: 82	The mod is only valid for 256MB model. But you can still flash the BIOS to a 128MB XT BIOS, without enabling the OVERDRIVE and temperature monitoring function. Sin22: I'm actually using a big heatsink now, Volcano 7 to be exact, but suprisingly, I can't even manage more than 10MHz overclock. The whole PCB still remains hot when running, and the memory chips and the back of the core is burning hot! So I'm wondering if the heatsink is doing a good job in the first place (good contact), that's why I'm considering water cooling it. Just wondering if it's worth the effort, since my card has high VGPU, but the PCB is still very hot to touch. I hope it a temperature issue that I can fix with water cooling. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

17th Apr 2004, 11:37 AM	#24 (permalink)
Sin22 Getting there Join Date: 14 Apr 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 165 Reputation: 36 Rep Power: 6	Well, in truth, I'm willing to bet that you got a dud o/cer. It happens unfortunately. W/cing it may help, but I dont think it will by much. __________________ Aircooling History DragonOrb3 \| V7+ \| XDream \| SLK800 \| SLK900A \| MCX462-V \| SP94 \| CJC 661CA \| CNPS7000Cu \| MCX478-V \| XP90 \| Silent Tower \| Hyper 6 \| Watercooling History Cyclone 5 \| Jaron Esky (x2) \| LRWW \| LRCascade \| Maze 3 & 4 \| Turbine \| Clover \| MCW5002 \| G4 Storm \| Phase Change History Evap Tower \| Vapochill Classic \| DIY Phase-Change \| Vapochill PE \|

17th Apr 2004, 12:43 PM	#25 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 28,127 Reputation: 4649 Rep Power: 82	I never have luck getting a good overclocker unfortunately...sigh... Just wondering, does your PCB feels burning hot at load? __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

17th Apr 2004, 01:05 PM	#26 (permalink)
Sin22 Getting there Join Date: 14 Apr 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 165 Reputation: 36 Rep Power: 6	Not at all. Only the rams feel hot. __________________ Aircooling History DragonOrb3 \| V7+ \| XDream \| SLK800 \| SLK900A \| MCX462-V \| SP94 \| CJC 661CA \| CNPS7000Cu \| MCX478-V \| XP90 \| Silent Tower \| Hyper 6 \| Watercooling History Cyclone 5 \| Jaron Esky (x2) \| LRWW \| LRCascade \| Maze 3 & 4 \| Turbine \| Clover \| MCW5002 \| G4 Storm \| Phase Change History Evap Tower \| Vapochill Classic \| DIY Phase-Change \| Vapochill PE \|

17th Apr 2004, 10:27 AM	#22 (permalink)
-ct- Newbie Join Date: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 12 Reputation: 1 Rep Power: 0	i had to send my ATI-built 9800pro128 in about 1 1/2 month ago i just checked and i have samsung k4d263238e-6c2a) memory chips guess this whole idea of a mod ain't gonna help mine eh? any way to check what core it is without powering down and popping the hs/f off? and does simply removing the hs/f (for whatever reason, besides i was thinking of getting a better one than stock anyway - maybe go entire watercooling) have any warranty issues? hell, this card has a 5 YEAR warranty, so sez the info sheet i got back with it. i'd hate to void that...

17th Apr 2004, 10:52 PM	#27 (permalink)
Max_87 h@x! Join Date: 11 Aug 2003 Location: the land of bandwidth cap Posts: 11,446 Reputation: 2090 Rep Power: 38	Well, mine feels hot too i'm already using a AMD stock heatsink and a 90mm fan __________________ Max_87 Tech ARP http://www.techarp.com Dell Studio 15 / P7350 / 3GB DDR2 / Radeon HD 3450 / 250GB 7200RPM / 15" @ 1920x1200 E8600 @ 4.4GHz 1.36v / Asus P5E3 Deluxe / 2x2GB DDR3 / Radeon X1800 / Barracuda 7200.9 120GB / 7200.10 320GB x2 / Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS / WD6400AAKS x2 / Dell 2007FP x2 / Silverstone ST56F

19th Apr 2004, 05:05 AM	#29 (permalink)
-ct- Newbie Join Date: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 12 Reputation: 1 Rep Power: 0	Chai - was that aimed at me? i could flash to the 128MB XT BIOS? what good would that do? for the rest - what about the warranty issue?

19th Apr 2004, 08:29 AM	#30 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 28,127 Reputation: 4649 Rep Power: 82	This guide is meant for 256MB, not 128MB. Do you have an R360 core to begin with? __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/