The ATI Radeon To ATI FireGL Mod Guide! - Page 37

KingNic · 4th Oct 2004, 09:14 AM

No there's a big issue between VIA chipsets and high end ATI cards running at AGP 8x. I have to run my 9800 pro at AGP 4x, otherwise it's unstable as hell.

Anyway I've got it working. Updated my mobo's BIOS, bumped AGP up to 8x and turned AGP fast write on. Seems to be stable now so I'm happy.

Max_87 · 4th Oct 2004, 10:59 AM

Congratz!

zy · 4th Oct 2004, 01:03 PM

hmmm Fast Write should be On or Off ? ..

Omega drivers recommend them Off...
any ideas?

Max_87 · 5th Oct 2004, 12:18 AM

I always enable it unless is causes some stability issues

Adrian Wong · 5th Oct 2004, 12:53 AM

Well, FastWrite is supposed to improved performance. It does. But in most cases, it's not particularly significant.

However, it does seem to reduce overclockability. So, you might want to try disabling it. See if that helps your overclockability.

Once you are satisfied with the overclocked speeds, try enabling FastWrite for that extra edge. If that doesn't work, leave FastWrite off.

News Writer · 11th Oct 2004, 10:11 PM

The guide has just been updated!

Want a FireGL workstation card but can't afford to pay ATI's exhorbitant prices? Well, why don't you grab a Radeon desktop card and mod it into a FireGL card? Yes, you can easily mod a Radeon into the FireGL!

Our guide will go through all the possible FireGL mods for the Radeon 8500, 9500, 9600, 9700 and 9800 series of cards and teach you just how to mod your Radeon into a FireGL! Check it out!

Here are the updates:-

Updated pages 1, 2, 3, 5, 7 and 14.
Rearranged the entire guide for better flow; and to reduce confusion.

Link : ATI Radeon To ATI FireGL Mod Guide Rev. 4.0!

telemachus · 12th Oct 2004, 11:11 PM

Hey I was going through [H]ard OCP's front page and i saw the the FireGL MOD for Radeon's. This thing is awesome... i'm an architecture student in my last few years at school and all we do now is VIZ/MAX/CAD work. I didn't have the $$$ to buy a FireGL card, so i ended up buying a Radeon 9800 Pro.

The card worked great before... but it works even better now! I am able to keep LOTS of geometry (even moreso than the stock 9800 pro could) on the screen with out have to turn adaptive degradation on, bounding box, and continually keep turning geometry off. I would like to run some benchmarks on 3DS MAX for fps but i don't know where to look.

I have noticed that i can hear the heatsink fan running at a faster RPM than before. Do you think i should drop the $4o to buy a Artic VGA cooler fan for my card just to be on the safe side that i don't fry it... I did notice that all the FireGL cards do come with better heatsinks and fans that the Radeons do.

Anyway i just want to say thanks for an awesome time, sleep, and money saving tip.

-telemachus

Max_87 · 13th Oct 2004, 02:25 PM

LoL! You're welcome! Glad that it helped you to save some money!

Don't worry about it, you won't fry your card

Unless you do voltage moddings on it that is

Anyway, are you sure that the stock HSF is running faster than before? this is strange......

weapon121 · 13th Oct 2004, 05:08 PM

Not only does it improve 3d studio max, but I also use combustion and premiere to edit videos, and the diffrence in the realtime preview windows are huge!!

Photoshop seems to be allot more smoother also.I had to actually flash the bios , because none of the methods would work. I would get all the panels and stuff, but max would get unstable and crash!! so would combustion...
After working around the drivers for a while , they finally worked. My hat goes off to everyone involved in this mod!!!
Its practicle and very "cost effective"..jejej

Now i can concentrate on more ram and stuff!! Instead of "Wasting my money"on ridiculously overpriced cards"!!
thx again, and keep up the great work!!

weapon121 · 13th Oct 2004, 05:27 PM

Telemachus... Try this site
http://www.specbench.org/gpc/apc.sta...enchmarks.html

they have a specific benchmark for 3d studio max... i dont really understand it yet, but from what i can tell, in comparison to my radeon 9800 pro. the drivers we have now
are ALLOT

more efficent.

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zy zynine.com Join Date: 16 Dec 2002 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 13,638 Reputation: 2379 Rep Power: 44	hmmm Fast Write should be On or Off ? .. Omega drivers recommend them Off... any ideas? __________________

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11th Oct 2004, 10:11 PM	#366 (permalink)
News Writer News Writer Join Date: 7 Sep 2004 Location: ARP Posts: 67 Reputation: 13 Rep Power: 0	The guide has just been updated! Want a FireGL workstation card but can't afford to pay ATI's exhorbitant prices? Well, why don't you grab a Radeon desktop card and mod it into a FireGL card? Yes, you can easily mod a Radeon into the FireGL! Our guide will go through all the possible FireGL mods for the Radeon 8500, 9500, 9600, 9700 and 9800 series of cards and teach you just how to mod your Radeon into a FireGL! Check it out! Here are the updates:- Updated pages 1, 2, 3, 5, 7 and 14. Rearranged the entire guide for better flow; and to reduce confusion. Link : ATI Radeon To ATI FireGL Mod Guide Rev. 4.0!

4th Oct 2004, 09:14 AM	#361 (permalink)
KingNic Newbie Join Date: 2 Oct 2004 Posts: 4 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	No there's a big issue between VIA chipsets and high end ATI cards running at AGP 8x. I have to run my 9800 pro at AGP 4x, otherwise it's unstable as hell. Anyway I've got it working. Updated my mobo's BIOS, bumped AGP up to 8x and turned AGP fast write on. Seems to be stable now so I'm happy.

12th Oct 2004, 11:11 PM	#367 (permalink)
telemachus Newbie Join Date: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Hey I was going through [H]ard OCP's front page and i saw the the FireGL MOD for Radeon's. This thing is awesome... i'm an architecture student in my last few years at school and all we do now is VIZ/MAX/CAD work. I didn't have the $$$ to buy a FireGL card, so i ended up buying a Radeon 9800 Pro. The card worked great before... but it works even better now! I am able to keep LOTS of geometry (even moreso than the stock 9800 pro could) on the screen with out have to turn adaptive degradation on, bounding box, and continually keep turning geometry off. I would like to run some benchmarks on 3DS MAX for fps but i don't know where to look. I have noticed that i can hear the heatsink fan running at a faster RPM than before. Do you think i should drop the $4o to buy a Artic VGA cooler fan for my card just to be on the safe side that i don't fry it... I did notice that all the FireGL cards do come with better heatsinks and fans that the Radeons do. Anyway i just want to say thanks for an awesome time, sleep, and money saving tip. -telemachus

13th Oct 2004, 02:25 PM	#368 (permalink)
Max_87 h@x! Join Date: 11 Aug 2003 Location: the land of bandwidth cap Posts: 11,448 Reputation: 2090 Rep Power: 38	LoL! You're welcome! Glad that it helped you to save some money! Don't worry about it, you won't fry your card Unless you do voltage moddings on it that is Anyway, are you sure that the stock HSF is running faster than before? this is strange...... __________________ Max_87 Tech ARP http://www.techarp.com Dell Studio 15 / P7350 / 3GB DDR2 / Radeon HD 3450 / 250GB 7200RPM / 15" @ 1920x1200 E8600 @ 4.4GHz 1.36v / Asus P5E3 Deluxe / 2x2GB DDR3 / Radeon X1800 / Barracuda 7200.9 120GB / 7200.10 320GB x2 / Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS / WD6400AAKS x2 / Dell 2007FP x2 / Silverstone ST56F

13th Oct 2004, 05:08 PM	#369 (permalink)
weapon121 Newbie Join Date: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 6 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Had to see it, to believe it...!! Not only does it improve 3d studio max, but I also use combustion and premiere to edit videos, and the diffrence in the realtime preview windows are huge!! Photoshop seems to be allot more smoother also.I had to actually flash the bios , because none of the methods would work. I would get all the panels and stuff, but max would get unstable and crash!! so would combustion... After working around the drivers for a while , they finally worked. My hat goes off to everyone involved in this mod!!! Its practicle and very "cost effective"..jejej Now i can concentrate on more ram and stuff!! Instead of "Wasting my money"on ridiculously overpriced cards"!! thx again, and keep up the great work!!

13th Oct 2004, 05:27 PM	#370 (permalink)
weapon121 Newbie Join Date: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 6 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Telemachus... Try this site http://www.specbench.org/gpc/apc.sta...enchmarks.html they have a specific benchmark for 3d studio max... i dont really understand it yet, but from what i can tell, in comparison to my radeon 9800 pro. the drivers we have now are ALLOT more efficent.