Very slow responding BIOS

Discussion in 'Processors, Motherboards & Memory' started by rainman999, Oct 13, 2005.

  1. rainman999

    rainman999 Newbie

    Hi

    I'm new here so please excuse me if I make any mistakes.

    After I added a 4 point powered USB hub by BIOS went on a go slow, even in the BIOS changing area; I'd click on a different section and it would take about 15 seconds to respond, yet if I remove the hub (I need it) everything returns to normal.

    I looked in the BIOS and the only setting I could find that mentions USB is for the keyboard, no mention of a USB controller or anything like that, surely there must be something I can adjust to make it go back to its normal speedy self? :pray:

    I've added my computer information below, it's a bit long winded, but I didn't know what was needed, it is from Everest.

    Cheers.
    Paul.

    my system is:
    Computer Gateway 450SP
    Computer Type Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC
    Operating System Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
    OS Service Pack Service Pack 4
    Internet Explorer 6.0.2800.1106 (IE 6.0 SP1)
    DirectX 4.09.00.0900 (DirectX 9.0)
    Computer Name HOME-ULEY
    User Name Paul Antoni Evans
    SMTP E-mail Address [email protected]
    Logon Domain HOME-ULEY
    Date / Time 2005-10-10 / 22:16

    Motherboard
    CPU Type Intel Pentium III, 450 MHz (4.5 x 100)
    Motherboard Name Intel Warm Springs WS440BX (1 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM)
    Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440BX
    System Memory 384 MB (SDRAM)
    BIOS Type Phoenix (04/22/99)
    Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
    Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
    Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

    Display
    Video Adapter Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro (32 MB)
    3D Accelerator ATI Rage128 Pro
    Monitor HP D2843 M900 (73873817615)

    Multimedia
    Audio Adapter Creative SB PCI128 (Ensoniq ES1371) Sound Card

    Storage
    IDE Controller Intel(r) 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
    Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
    Disk Drive IOMEGA ZIP 100
    Disk Drive ST380021A (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
    Optical Drive PHILIPS DVDR1628P1
    SMART Hard Disks Status OK

    Partitions
    C: (NTFS) 36789 MB (31116 MB free)
    E: (NTFS) 39527 MB (13324 MB free)

    Input
    Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse PS/2 Compatible Mouse

    Network
    Network Adapter GlobeSpan USB ADSL LAN Modem (169.254.248.24)
    Network Adapter WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface (172.212.69.195)

    Peripherals
    Printer Epson Stylus COLOR 440 ESC/P 2
    Printer Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
    USB1 Controller Intel 82371AB/EB PIIX4 - USB Host Controller
    USB Device Generic USB Hub
    USB Device GlobeSpan USB ADSL LAN Modem
    USB Device MUSTEK 1248UB
    USB Device Polar USB Interface

    *****************************************************
    Motherboard Properties
    Motherboard ID 4W4SB0X0.15A.0013.P08.9904221542
    Motherboard Name Intel Warm Springs WS440BX

    Front Side Bus Properties
    Bus Type Intel GTL+
    Bus Width 64-bit
    Real Clock 100 MHz
    Effective Clock 100 MHz
    Bandwidth 800 MB/s

    Memory Bus Properties
    Bus Type SDR SDRAM
    Bus Width 64-bit
    Real Clock 100 MHz
    Effective Clock 100 MHz
    Bandwidth 800 MB/s

    Motherboard Physical Info
    CPU Sockets/Slots 1
    Expansion Slots 1 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP
    RAM Slots 3 DIMM
    Form Factor ATX
    Motherboard Size 200 mm x 300 mm
    Motherboard Chipset i440BX
    *****************************************************
    Memory Description
    Micron Tech. 8LSDT1664AG-10EE1
    Micron Tech. 8LSDT1664AG-10EE1
    Toshiba THMY6416E1CEG-80

    *****************************************************
    Chipset Properties
    Motherboard Chipset Intel 82440BX
    In-Order Queue Depth 4

    North Bridge Properties
    North Bridge Intel 82443BX
    Revision / Stepping 03 / C1
    Package Type 492 Pin BGA
    Package Size 3.5 cm x 3.5 cm
    Core Voltage 3.3 V

    South Bridge Properties
    South Bridge Intel 82371EB PIIX4E
    Revision / Stepping 02 / A0
    Package Type 324 Pin mBGA
    Package Size 2.7 cm x 2.7 cm
    Core Voltage 3.3 V

    Memory Timings
    CAS Latency (CL) 2T
    RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 2T
    RAS Precharge (tRP) 2T

    Memory Slots
    DRAM Slot #1 128 MB (SDRAM)
    DRAM Slot #2 128 MB (SDRAM)
    DRAM Slot #3 128 MB (SDRAM)

    AGP Properties
    AGP Version 1.00
    AGP Status Enabled
    AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
    Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
    Current AGP Speed 2x
    Fast-Write Not Supported
    Side Band Addressing Supported, Enabled

    *****************************************************

    Field Value
    BIOS Properties
    BIOS Type Phoenix
    System BIOS Date 04/22/99
    Video BIOS Date 00/02/03
     
  2. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Hmm.. Is your keyboard a USB keyboard? And did you connect it to your powered USB hub? :think:
     
  3. rainman999

    rainman999 Newbie

    More info

    No my keyboard is not USB
    Paul

    I tried to get an update for my BIOS from http://www.esupport.com/global/
    but although I sent "repeated" requests via the "BIOS Agent" I never heard from them, and unfortunately I do not know where else I can get an update from, or even if that would help.

    One thing I never mentioned, when the computer is booting up the lights on the hub go on and off repeatedly, and at the end of the boot before windows starts the one beep lasts longer than normal. After Windows boots up though everything seems to work alright!

    Cheers
    Paul.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2005
  4. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Hmm.. Your BIOS is pretty old actually. :think:

    Any luck getting a BIOS update from Gateway?? :think:
     
  5. rainman999

    rainman999 Newbie

    Will try the gateway site, let you know.

    Paul.
     
  6. rainman999

    rainman999 Newbie

    Sorry for the long delay in replying,I finally got up the nerve :oops: to update my BIOS, I still have the same problem though, when the USB hub is attached the BIOS goes in slow motion.

    Some things in the document with the BIOS confused me though. I've copied it below. Basically it says both 800 and 1200MHz speeds for a new processor, but the 1200MHz says view! Does that mean I can go to somewhere like eBay and get any processor as long as it is 800 or 1200MHz and swap it for my 450 processor? Hope that isn't a dumb question.

    Many thanks in advance.
    Paul.
    Features/Errata Fixed In This Release
    P14-0019
    • Correct W98 Device Manager warning on PS/2 mouse when only mouse present is USB.
    NOTE: only works when Legacy USB is disabled.
    • Date stamp set to 11/04/99 to prevent ACPI OS install.
    P13-0018
    • Change ACPI DSDT and RSDT OEM_REVISION fields from 0 to 1 for W2K Ready.
    • Change \_PFAN._STA 0xFF return value to 0x01 for W2K Ready.
    • Revise processor updates for 681.
    • Add processor update for 683.
    • Correct “A” and “E” processor suffix display.
    • Display processor speed up to 1200MHz.
    • Date stamp set to 11/03/99 to prevent ACPI OS install.
    P12-0017
    • Corrected cache autosize bug introduced in P11.
    • Date stamp set to 11/02/99 to prevent ACPI OS install.
    P11-0016
    • Installed latest processor updates.
    • Added support for 68x-class processors.
    • Added up to 800MHz processor speed.
    • Date stamp set to 11/01/99 to prevent ACPI OS install.
    P10-0015
    • Installed latest Processor BIOS updates.
    • Removed HDD boot sector protection.
    P09-0014
    • Installed latest Processor BIOS updates.
    • Installed HDD boot sector protection, with fix to prevent it from being automatically enabled whenever the supervisor password is set.
    • Fixed PSN BEL Test failure.
    P08-0013
    • Fix for WHQL Manual USB test.
    • 550MHz Pentium III Support, with 673 processor update
    • Fix for L2 Cache not being initialized at 550MHz
    • AGP Aperture Size fix
    • Fix for customer specific PCI card
    • Added support for disabling the User logo via DMI switch
    • Added DMI code for automated reporting of max CPU speed

    P07-0012
    • Added new processor update.
    Stepping CPUID Update Rev
    B1 653 01
    • Added ability to enable/disable the processor serial number feature.
    P06-0009
    • Added Pentium III code to DMI
    • Added fix for HCT Unreported memory failure
    • Changed MFG Default setting for ECC Event logging
     
  7. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Well you will have to get an Intel Celeron or Pentium III processor up to 800MHz, if what they say is correct... :think:
     
  8. rainman999

    rainman999 Newbie

    Thanks for that :D , I'm going to see if they have any 800MHZ processors left.

    Any clues as to why my BIOS is still going slow even after the BIOS update?

    Cheers.
    Paul.
     
  9. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    That's a very good question. I wonder how the USB ports affect the display of the BIOS screens... :think:

    Not related at all to USB... but try enabling Video BIOS Shadow... :think:

    Oh.. wait, do you see any BIOS option regarding APIC (not ACPI)?
     
  10. rainman999

    rainman999 Newbie

    I've looked through every place I can find in the BIOS and there is no APIC settings at all. I hate to seem dense but if it's not related at all to USB, what is it?

    Thank you.
    Paul.
     
  11. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    It enables the APIC controller and provides your system with more IRQs.

    You can check out the details here - http://www.rojakpot.com/showFreeBOG.aspx?Lang=0&bogno=47
     
  12. rainman999

    rainman999 Newbie

    OK, if there is no settings in my BIOS to cure the problem, how do I cure it? Or am I stuck with it :wall:

    Cheers.
    Paul.
     
  13. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Hmm.. If possible, get me some screenshots of the BIOS screens. :think:
     
  14. rainman999

    rainman999 Newbie

    I hate to seem thick, but how do I get screenshots of the BIOS pages :confused:

    Guess that's why I'm here aye. ;)

    I hope you can explain to me what I have to do to get you the information you need.

    Regards.
    Paul.

    P.S. My friend Bee Wah just saw me writting this to you and was amazed I'm asking for help from someone from her part of the world, she comes from Port Dixon in Malaysia, small world I guess.
     
  15. zy

    zy zynine.com Staff Member

    Port Dickson :) ..
     
  16. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Oh, if you have a digital camera, just use that to capture the various BIOS screens. You can do the same with a webcam, but you will need another PC for that to work. :mrgreen:

    Ahh.. She's from Port Dickson? That's cool! :thumb:
     
  17. rainman999

    rainman999 Newbie

    My friend has a cheap digital camera, I'll ask him to let me borrow it, will get back to you when I have taken them.

    Cheers.
    Paul.
     
  18. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Okay! All the best! :thumb:
     
  19. p3n1x

    p3n1x Newbie

    long time lurker, finally with an issue to chime in on

    im currently fiddling with this same board...basically got it for free when boss man was tossin old gear out...

    i also saw on the CASE of the system it said Gateway Gp7-550 and im also tryin to find that specific model on gateways site as well


    i want to make sure the bios is up to date, and ive done some googling, diggin thru HP and Intels site, and im just kinda lost...i ran Adida32(i believe thats what its called off hirens boot disk)

    basically my board says its a Intel Warm Springs WS440BX Bios Type Phoenix PCI PnP (04/22/99)

    system bios date also says 04/22/99

    when the system boots i see this in the upper left above the gate way logo, it seems to be a bios string, but searchin for this has proved a bit challenging too

    4W4SB0X0.15A.0013.P08

    does that mean anything to anyone? is there something newer to use? ive downloaded a few bios updates, and im leery of using either of em, since im not 110% sure theyre the right bios files

    SP11882.exe - it unpacks
    SP13363.exe - it also unpacks

    but i dont wanna flash the bios if im not sure.....any help guys?
    .15A.0013.p08
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2005
  20. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    The BIOS string can mean anything. If you want to update the BIOS, you need to search in the Gateway website for the latest BIOS update.

    But often, when it comes to companies like Gateway, the latest BIOS updates are rarely provided. You may have to source it from the motherboard manufacturer.

    In that case, you cannot rely on software utilities to find that out. You should open up the case and eyeball the motherboard to find out who was its manufacturer as well as its model number. Then go to the manufacturer's website and see if they have a newer BIOS for the model.
     

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