The ATI Radeon To ATI FireGL Mod Guide!

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  1. Max_87

    Max_87 huehuehue

    hey welcome back! :D :D
     
  2. hixatchi

    hixatchi Newbie

    ok i bit the bullet, flashed with the club r350 fireglx2 bios....it worked.....wish there was a r360 one other than the hercules but it complained ti wasn't compatible or something so i didn't do it...

    anwyays which drivers should i install? i installed the fire gl x2 256t drivers from the ati site and it worked.....didn't complain about anything..... (didn't use any crack/patch or free firegl driver)

    what tabs should i see to know that it worked?
    i see display, color, options, rotation, overlay, and 3d....where are the firegl optomizations page? thx
     
  3. Max_87

    Max_87 huehuehue

    LoL! Why you don't want to use the FreeFireGL drivers? :lol:

    Ok anyway, you need to use RivaTuner to patch the driver before installing it and after installing it. Or else you won't see any improvements in performance :mrgreen:

    Well, check the guide :mrgreen: There are some 'special' tabs which couldn't be found on Cats :mrgreen:
     
  4. hixatchi

    hixatchi Newbie

    ok i used freefiregl drivers.......and i get the same tabs as b4...only difference is the freefiregl icon on the tab istead of ati one......is hte firegl working?
     
  5. Max_87

    Max_87 huehuehue

    LoL! you need to bench it :lol: LoL! It should be working already :mrgreen:
     
  6. hixatchi

    hixatchi Newbie

    any benchmarks out there other than 3dsmax? thx
     
  7. weapon121

    weapon121 Newbie

    Remember to try the " firegl" first with max or combustion or any other opengl hardware accelerated program. Even though the tabs are there, it doesnt mean it actually runs...
    if max or maya, or whatever you use crashes, you probably have to do what i did... :roll:
    If it does work, get ready for some unbeleivable performance increase

    before my radeon pro could handle about 230,000 polygons on scene...and it sucked.
    now, it takes 700,000 polygons like nothing!
    all this while rendering a complete scene, working on photoshop, and premiere :D .
     
  8. sp00

    sp00 Newbie

    Hey Guys,

    I'm somewhat torn between getting a cheaper 9800pro or the new x800 card. The main factor in getting a 9800pro is the ability to softmod it into a x2 firegl card. I like to know if anyone out there is willing try soft modding their x800 card into an x3 firegl card. Since it doesn't require any flashing, it should be safe. Thanks.
     
  9. Max_87

    Max_87 huehuehue

    Someone emailed me about the X800 to X3 mod. He said he's wiling to use his X800Pro as the test subject :mrgreen: I'm still waiting for his reply ;)
     
  10. sp00

    sp00 Newbie

    Thanks. Hopefully, he'll get back to you in a few days.
     
  11. Max_87

    Max_87 huehuehue

    Yeah :mrgreen: Hopefully
     
  12. dgnzcn

    dgnzcn Newbie

    hacked radeon 9800 pro Test Results..

    I hack bios of radeon 9800 pro
    and I tested with SPECapc for Maya 5...
    and the results is fiasco!
    because no more giving performance the hacked bios.
    and I tested with softfiregl....
    but results is same..no more more performence then unhacked...



    and here results are original (unhacked radeon 9800 pro)



    <TESTRUN>
    7.89,wireframe
    15.77,smoothShaded
    25.36,Texture Load Time
    21.03,textured
    24.49,texturedSelected
    31.98,texturedHilited
    scene,werewolf.ma
    5.02,Project File Load
    7.83,wireframe
    15.83,smoothShaded
    21.87,Texture Load Time
    21.02,textured
    24.25,texturedSelected
    32.15,texturedHilited
    scene,werewolf.ma
    5.14,Project File Load
    7.94,wireframe
    15.9,smoothShaded
    21.96,Texture Load Time
    21.22,textured
    24.48,texturedSelected
    32.27,texturedHilited
    scene,werewolf.ma
    5.27,Project File Load
    7.98,wireframe
    15.88,smoothShaded
    21.84,Texture Load Time
    21.18,textured
    24.5,texturedSelected
    32.14,texturedHilited
    scene,hand1.ma
    40.01,Project File Load
    1.87,wireframe
    14.03,smoothShaded
    0.16,Texture Load Time
    14.03,textured
    13.51,texturedSelected
    16.78,texturedHilited
    scene,hand1.ma
    39.84,Project File Load
    1.86,wireframe
    14.02,smoothShaded
    0.16,Texture Load Time
    14.03,textured
    13.47,texturedSelected
    16.75,texturedHilited
    scene,hand1.ma
    39.86,Project File Load
    1.87,wireframe
    14.03,smoothShaded
    0.17,Texture Load Time
    14.04,textured
    13.5,texturedSelected
    16.67,texturedHilited
    scene,Insect.ma
    3.63,Project File Load
    67.94,wireframe
    128.28,smoothShaded
    13.37,Texture Load Time
    301.19,textured
    301.52,texturedSelected
    355.77,texturedHilited
    scene,Insect.ma
    3.59,Project File Load
    67.4,wireframe
    129.04,smoothShaded
    8.83,Texture Load Time
    306.89,textured
    326.2,texturedSelected
    365.22,texturedHilited
    scene,Insect.ma
    3.59,Project File Load
    67.61,wireframe
    129.25,smoothShaded
    8.82,Texture Load Time
    303.33,textured
    297.19,texturedSelected
    356.13,texturedHilited
    scene,Squid.ma
    3.74,Project File Load
    10.47,wireframe
    21.3,smoothShaded
    45.28,Texture Load Time
    30.31,textured
    33.01,texturedSelected
    37.84,texturedHilited
    scene,Squid.ma
    3.65,Project File Load
    10.61,wireframe
    21.52,smoothShaded
    38.43,Texture Load Time
    30.7,textured
    36.27,texturedSelected
    38.25,texturedHilited
    scene,Squid.ma
    3.62,Project File Load
    10.58,wireframe
    21.44,smoothShaded
    38.51,Texture Load Time
    30.72,textured
    28.74,texturedSelected
    38.24,texturedHilited
    scene,handDef.ma
    41.01,Project File Load
    1765.61,smoothShaded


    </TESTRUN>


    ----------------------------------------------------

    here is hacked to radeon 9800 pro (softfireGL with hacked bios)




    <TESTRUN>
    8.11,wireframe
    13.12,smoothShaded
    24.73,Texture Load Time
    18.19,textured
    20.82,texturedSelected
    27.74,texturedHilited
    scene,werewolf.ma
    6.11,Project File Load
    7.8,wireframe
    13.19,smoothShaded
    21.65,Texture Load Time
    18.21,textured
    20.86,texturedSelected
    27.81,texturedHilited
    scene,werewolf.ma
    6.25,Project File Load
    7.89,wireframe
    13.22,smoothShaded
    21.78,Texture Load Time
    18.32,textured
    21.2,texturedSelected
    27.96,texturedHilited
    scene,werewolf.ma
    6.37,Project File Load
    7.98,wireframe
    13.28,smoothShaded
    21.81,Texture Load Time
    18.31,textured
    21.59,texturedSelected
    28,texturedHilited
    scene,hand1.ma
    43.49,Project File Load
    2.42,wireframe
    10.14,smoothShaded
    0.14,Texture Load Time
    10.16,textured
    12.23,texturedSelected
    12.59,texturedHilited
    scene,hand1.ma
    43.38,Project File Load
    2.4,wireframe
    10.14,smoothShaded
    0.14,Texture Load Time
    10.11,textured
    12.25,texturedSelected
    12.64,texturedHilited
    scene,hand1.ma
    43.54,Project File Load
    2.82,wireframe
    10.15,smoothShaded
    0.15,Texture Load Time
    10.16,textured
    12.67,texturedSelected
    13.11,texturedHilited
    scene,Insect.ma
    4.22,Project File Load
    65.85,wireframe
    156.51,smoothShaded
    13,Texture Load Time
    253.64,textured
    261.73,texturedSelected
    295.81,texturedHilited
    scene,Insect.ma
    4.08,Project File Load
    65.87,wireframe
    156.58,smoothShaded
    8.56,Texture Load Time
    254.32,textured
    296.84,texturedSelected
    296.43,texturedHilited
    scene,Insect.ma
    4.12,Project File Load
    66.6,wireframe
    157.43,smoothShaded
    8.64,Texture Load Time
    257.44,textured
    262.17,texturedSelected
    299.47,texturedHilited
    scene,Squid.ma
    4.3,Project File Load
    10.56,wireframe
    21.28,smoothShaded
    44.93,Texture Load Time
    29.09,textured
    30.81,texturedSelected
    35.19,texturedHilited
    scene,Squid.ma
    4.12,Project File Load
    10.63,wireframe
    21.28,smoothShaded
    37.94,Texture Load Time
    29.15,textured
    29.78,texturedSelected
    35.36,texturedHilited
    scene,Squid.ma
    4.14,Project File Load
    10.71,wireframe
    21.49,smoothShaded
    37.97,Texture Load Time
    29.36,textured
    27.32,texturedSelected
    35.44,texturedHilited
    scene,handDef.ma
    40.7,Project File Load
    1739.21,smoothShaded


    </TESTRUN>
    -----------------------------------------------------

    you can see no more differents, except some viewports bug...
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2004
  13. Max_87

    Max_87 huehuehue

    Let me ask you a question 1st :mrgreen:
    Did you patch the FireGL driver which you've downloaded from ATI's site before & after installing it? :mrgreen:
     
  14. dgnzcn

    dgnzcn Newbie


    first try : I pathced ati's firegl drivers...
    results : same

    second try : I uninstall patched driver, then I install FreeFireGL_6378 (soft mod) drivers from russian web site...
    I choose from configuration tab settings to MAYA Nt...

    results : same

    I try all the way but results is not change...

    what is way now..
     
  15. weapon121

    weapon121 Newbie

    maya doesnt really get any increase....you should try with 3d studio max.if it crashes then its still not fully configured.... :eh:

    if you get the special custom drivers from the viewport config. in max , then your set. :pray:

    try to get max, and try again. I can assure you it works :D
     
  16. spark

    spark Newbie

    Hey guys, if anyone could give me some advice it would be greatly appreciated.I have a Radeon 9700pro card and would love to load the fireGL drivers.I am currently running Mastercam, Rhinoceros and Flamingo and the card is battling so an upgrade to a fireGL would be great. I tried the FreefireGL drivers and it seemed like a success.The control panel was there with all the functions.However upon starting Rhinoceros 3D and running it, it crashed.Time and time again.There was also no performance gain either.Opening up windows when you right click the mouse was also a lot slower and flickered sometimes.I tried uninstalling and reloading several times, but to no avail.An interesting point to note is that if I look under my information tab it says that my bios is 0.00 .So it seems like it is not picking up the new bios?I don't know, I am new at this.I really don't want to try the long way of doing this as I have no PCI card to back up with, and it looks a lot more involved.But I will make a plan if I have to.Any ideas? Thanks!
     
  17. Hm.

    I hope this doesn't mean that the newer vid cards are non - moddable... :doh:

    I still HAVEN't gotten a new video card - channeling all my resources to a new dual Xeon rig. Maybe a Quadro FX 700, later.

    The nVIDIA software and hardware mods are at a standstill as of now. No successful mods with the advent of the newer cards.

    A similar situation may occur with ATi, but I really hope this hasn't happened. :pray:
     
  18. lio

    lio Newbie

    hi guys i managed to mod my radeon 9550 to fireglT2 everything seamed ok in specview in 3dmark 03 but when i started 3dmark05 or the new needfor speed demo everything is very bright and strange looking obviosly there is a problem with directx9.0c what could be the issue
    i moded it with the freefiregl driver
    please help
     
  19. Max_87

    Max_87 huehuehue

    Looks like there are still some problems with the FreeFireGL driver. Looks like you have no choice but to use the RivaTuner method :lol:
     
  20. Max_87

    Max_87 huehuehue

    Strange.... :think:

    Most of them got it working...I'm really not sure about this one. Both the RivaTuner patch scripts and the FreeFireGL drivers are not working properly.
     

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