The NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 GPU Review

Discussion in 'Reviews & Articles' started by Adrian Wong, Jan 18, 2004.

  1. johnwestbrook

    johnwestbrook Newbie

    DVD Problem with Go5200 Drivers

    Yea, it was the drivers. I updated to the latest Forceware from NVidia and DVD problem seems gone. My only question with this now is, my diagnostic test now shows 59.5fps for all three categories. As it tests it seems to reach 59.5 and just sit there. It never goes above it. Is this normal? It's as if there is a frame limiter on it or something. My Emachines is reporting over 700fps for the Half... tests. Thanks also for your articles on the G05200, they have been extremely helpful!
  2. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Hello John,

    That's probably because vsync was enabled. That's why your frame rate is limited to about 60Hz, the refresh rate of most notebook monitors.

    What you can do is go to the driver settings. Go to Performance & Quality Settings. Look for the Vertical Sync option. Untick Application-Controlled and force it to Off. That will turn off vsync.

    Vsync is useful because it prevents "tearing" when a video or image is rendered faster than the monitor's refresh rate. So, you might want to keep it on unless you are benchmarking.
  3. drab

    drab Newbie

    Any luck with drivers yet?would like to know the best for my 5600 go :D on acer 1705smi :p
  4. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Well, I think actual tweaking for the GeForce FX is at an end, so new drivers shouldn't improve the Go5200's performance by much.

    I now use the driver.
  5. drab

    drab Newbie

    Thanks,adrian :lol:
  6. brrian

    brrian Newbie

    So I have a Toshiba M30-S320 with this GeForce FX Go 5200 card in it. I'm using it for CAD, not games, and so far it's been fine.

    If, down the road, it is no longer adequate for my needs, can the card be replaced (is it soldered to the motherboard or is it replaceable)?

    I hope it is, but if not I'd have to consider replacing the laptop.

    Just thought I'd ask. Thanks!

  7. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Hello Brian,

    Unfortunately, the M30's GPU is not upgradeable. You will have to replace the notebook if you want something with more oomph! :mrgreen:
  8. chintu

    chintu Newbie

    Intel integrated extreme graphics 2 855gm chipset

    I want to know more about the performance of Intel integrated extreme graphics 2 with a 855 GM chipset with integrated 32-bit 2D/3D graphics.

    I read a post on this forum but it was slight confusing. it did not specify how the scores would relate to other graphics cards.
    I understand that it is not one of the best processors out there but i want to know whether it can sustain atleast a goood DVD playabck and some gaming too. IF sombody can tell me which NVIDIA card would it equal in performance even that would help.

    Are there any benchmark tests done already. if so can you tell me the sites :?:
  9. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Re: Intel integrated extreme graphics 2 855gm chipset

    Hello chintu,

    This is definitely off-topic. You should have posted it in the Graphics Card section ( :mrgreen:

    But to be honest, Intel's Extreme Graphics 2 is only good enough for DVD playback and 2D games. If you want to check its specifications and compare it against many other cards, please check our Mobile GPU Comparison Guide -

    Hope that helps you some! :mrgreen:

    PS. If you have any other questions, please post them in the correct forum! ;)
  10. Minsc

    Minsc Newbie

    This thread has given me some new hope. :) I bought my M30-UU9 back in June and at various times tried to update the display drivers. The only drivers I can get installed correctly are the ones on the restore CD and off's site. There doesn't appear to be much difference (if any) between the two.

    I downloaded the latest Forceware drivers and attempted to install them. After the reboot I checked and there didn't appear to be any sign the drivers were installed.Hoping they'd work I downloaded the 52.16 drivers. Unfortunately the same thing happens. I forced Windows to look in c:\NVIDIA\WinXP2000\52.16. After some work I finally got a list of GPU's. There wree about 8 GeForce FX 5200's but no Go5200. (This is sounding like the same problem joeljkp had back on the first page).

    I picked one of the 5200's and installed. This half worked. Windows looked fine but the few games I tried were messed up. So now I'm back to the old Toshiba drivers. Should I try the other GeForce FX 5200's on the list to see if they work correctly or should I try downloading a different driver?

    Thanks for any help and ignore any typos that may be there. :) I'm nearly falling asleep.
  11. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Argghhh... I lost the link. Someone posted a link to a site with the latest Forceware drivers for notebook GPUs. :wall:

    I'm actually using Rev. 61.12 drive right now. But the truth is the new drivers only come with optimizations for the higher-end cards, especially the new GeForce 6800 GPUs.
  12. Minsc

    Minsc Newbie


    I downloaded the 57.64 drivers for the newer M30's off The drivers listed for my model were something like 45.62. o_O As always the auto installer didn't work so I copied the temp folder made by the self-extractor. I made Windows look in that directory, selected Go5200, installed, and restarted. Instead of the normal "failure" 640x480 resolution I was greated with the "success" 1280x800. All games appear to work fine. :thumb:

    The only thing I have to worry about now is what all that driver uninstalling/installing did to my registery...
  13. Roxx1

    Roxx1 Newbie

    NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 TO Quadro FX Go Possible?

    Great review on Toshiba M200 Tablet PC.
    After a lot of research and posts... Especially after looking at the Rojak Review, I am about to purchase Toshiba M200 with maybe 2GB memory.

    I am a Product Designer and user of Alias Studiotools...

    I would like to use the M200 to sketch and maybe create some simple CAD surfaces... I have used Acer Tablet PC with Alias Sketchbook Pro.. but what I really need is "Hardware Overlay Plane" .. It is a featured only in Quadro cards.. basically it enables a little dotted circle to indicate my brush size in Studiotools.... I have also successfully turned my DELL 2650 Laptop's Geforce2Go to Quadro2Go.. with RivaTuner.... It worked nicely.. but it is not a Tablet PC...

    CAN Toshiba's Geforce FX Go5200 be softquadroed or RivaTunned to become Quadro FX Go???? Can some one at least try it and have the "Hardware Overlay Plane" in Nvidia setting turned on and see if it works..??

    The computer would cost few glands... and I really don't want to pay 15% restocking fee if it doesn't work....

    Thanks in advance
  14. Minsc

    Minsc Newbie

    An interesting read.

    To make this post OT...

    If only my M30-UU9 with the GeForce FX Go5200 would work half that good. :wall:
  15. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Don't worry. That way works too. :mrgreen:
  16. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Re: NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 TO Quadro FX Go Possible?

    Hmm.. Haven't tried that. :think:

    But to be honest, the Go5200 is a really weak GPU. Even if it's modded to Quadro, I really question its performance in Alias. :think:

    But I could be wrong. Hehe... Anyone here tried softmodding the GeForce FX Go GPUs into Quadros yet? :think:
  17. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Arrgghhh!!! That makes me puke whenever I think of the Go5200. :sick:

    Why does Toshiba still want to stick with the Go5200? Even the new M30 Special Edition comes with this POS. :wall:
  18. Roxx1

    Roxx1 Newbie

    Geforce FX Go5200 to Quadro Go Thoughts...

    Sorry about the double post... :doh:

    I don't know if this helps anybody around here... but I figured these net posts helped me great deal in many different situations... so... here is my thought on GPU and CAD....and Tablet PCs... or other notebooks...

    I have been using Dell Inspiron 2650 P4m 1.8 with 512mb 15" LCD with Geforce2Go turned into Quadro2Go....

    I do have more powerful desktop with actual Quadro 900XGL with P4 3.06 + 1GB RAM... and sure the DELL is much slower .but... the functionality of having CAD capable notebook is ... well... it helped me out a lot in many cases.... I used this old notebook to render out few thousand pix frames for animations when I needed more than one computer to render..... I have also used it to create simple to semi-complex 3D surfaces such as a automobile wheel designs to consumer electronic products....(while traveling...) It worked well for presentation to clients..

    During 3D modeling... speed of the old Dell is more or less enough.... wire frames move simlar to old SGI Octain workstation.. which I still use at work.... the render speed is actually faster than old SGI.... only draw back is I need 1 gb ram....for more complex models...

    I figured Tablet PC like the Toshiba M200 is perfect match for this type of professional 3D.... Screen maybe little smaller.. but the resolution is higher than 15" LCD... good enough for short 3D modeling....
    The tablet feature is priceless.... now I don't need to rug around 12" Wacom... beside.. sketching on the screen is.. much faster.....

    But I do need "hardware overlay planes" featured in Quadro/Fire GL type GPU.... this is why I need to change Geforce to Quadro..... also the GeforceFXGo should be faster than Gefoce2Go.. right?

    I guess I can pay thousands more and get Dell Workstation notebook... but.. it doesn't have tablet PC features and well two or three times the cost..... I guess to me game performance is not that important...and really 2d sketching and 3d modeling does not need that much screen graphic power..... by the way I did play DOOM3 on that old DELL 2650... at low res-mod... good enough to play fun......not too much my opinion.... quadroed geforce2go or normal mode didn't change performance in Doom3......

    I some what understand people's obsession with frames rates and details etc... but.... in 3D.... we still use same type of Software such as ALIAS since ... 7 - 8 years ago.... and back then pentium 3 with slow GPU didn't stop creating "Toy Story" or other 3D effects... I can still create detailed consumer electronic 3D model in same time frame in my P4 notebook as I was using P3 with much slower GPU in 90's....

    I hope these Tablet PC manufacturers would gear some of their product to professional market..... If there is P4 with 2GB RAM with QuadroFXgo with... 17inch wide screen with... Tablet PC feature.... I wouldn't hesitate to pay two or three times the current consumer Tablet PC cost... because it will be well...well worth the money... matter fact.. for people like.. me.. the time saved, easy use, protability for presentations will actually help earn more doh....

    For now... I will need to get consumer TABLET PC... add more ram... and Quadro the Geforce... and wait......

    Sorry about the long message.... but.. I was a bit frustrated searching for answers.. I just had to lash out a bit..... Hoply my thoughts on this Tablet PC and GPU.. may interest some of you.. ...

    oh by theway.. If possible, I still like to know if any one was successful turing Geforce FX go ---> Quadro FX go..... on any notebook.. especially Toshiba M200...

    Thanks again... and. ... from now on NO double post from me...... :)
  19. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Hello Roxx1,

    Don't worry about the double posting. Many people still make the mistake. Heh.. :mrgreen:

    Hmm, I get what you mean. In any case, the final render is done by the CPU. The GPU is only useful during manipulation of the 3D model, if I'm not mistaken.

    Anyway, I think it would be a better choice to keep to an NVIDIA GPU for professional 3D apps. NVIDIA GPUs are currently a lot faster than ATI GPUs when it comes to such apps.

    Keep your money for the RAM. Trust me, 512MB isn't enough! And I don't even do 3D modelling on my M30 notebook. :wall:

    As for the moddability of the Go5200, well, I will give it a shot when I have the time. I can't promise anything though. I have a HUGE backlog of work! ROTFL! :mrgreen:
  20. ultimateguy

    ultimateguy Newbie

    Inspiron 5150

    I have an Inspiron 5150 with a Geforce Go5200 and I got the RivaTuner. When I go to low-level system settings, all of the options for changing core and memory frequency are grayed out. Is this something I can fix?

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