The Perpetual F1 Thread!

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Chai, Apr 19, 2003.

  1. Johnie

    Johnie Newbie


    1 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.916

    2 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.318

    3 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:21.399

    4 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:21.548

    5 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:21.884

    6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:21.951

    7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:22.066

    8 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:22.291

    9 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:22.345

    10 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:22.395

    11 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:22.437

    12 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:22.558

    13 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:22.701

    14 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:22.710

    15 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 1:22.823

    16 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:23.389

    17 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:23.472

    18 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:23.676

    19 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:24.104

    20 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:24.772

    Exactly CHAI...never under 1:22 so far...but he is slowly improving...hahahahaha....maybe until next season he will be under 1:22 afterall... :wicked: :beer: :p :clap: :dance: :mrgreen: :haha:

    So as you may see here in this post...its an old story...Mclaren still nr.1...and all the others way behind (althogh my opinion here is that Kimi's result was again with empty fuel tank...just to make chiefs at Mercedes be on top place...) :mrgreen:

    But if this shows the real performance of each team...then Ferrari is in BIG trouble again (which it is already too much)...cause to see Red Bull in front of Ferrari...that sux very much! :wall: :twisted:

    My opinion is....that if MS will be VERY LUCKY...he might get somewhere around 5-8th place in qualifying... And tomorrow...only if it rains...he might score better...otherwise it will be big disaster - even bigger if you know that he should at least score better than Alonso to be still "POTENTIALLY" in the game for Drivers Championship (which is already lost long time ago, but at least not completely - until tomorrow if he will be behind Alonso). :wall: :evil: :pray: :pray: :pray: ;)

    Cya soon... :wave:
  2. Mad1

    Mad1 <b>Old Toad</b>

    :shock: :shock: :shock: the last pic :wicked: :wicked:
  3. ZuePhok

    ZuePhok Just Started

    no pics?????????????
  4. Johnie

    Johnie Newbie

    ...go one page back ZuePhok...and you'll see the pic... :mrgreen: :twisted: :wicked: :beer: ;)
  5. BlueStream

    BlueStream Newbie

    so leceh to go back one page.. want to rest eyes must also rest our fingers.. haha....
  6. ZuePhok

    ZuePhok Just Started


    changed engine..KNN!!
  7. Johnie

    Johnie Newbie


    1 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.878 +10 PLACES BECAUSE OF BLOWN/CHANGED ENGINE!

    2 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.054

    3 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:21.319

    4 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:21.369

    5 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:21.477

    6 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:21.640

    7 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:21.721

    8 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:21.962

    9 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:22.068

    10 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:22.266

    11 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:22.304

    12 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:22.356

    13 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:22.532

    14 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:22.560

    15 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:23.060

    16 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 1:23.291

    17 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:24.666

    18 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:24.904

    19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:25.859

    20 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:26.964

    So 6th place for MS...not that bad afterall... :mrgreen:

    And look at Kimi now...did that crazy running on free practices paid off? NO! Cause blown engine will put him on 11th place! :clap: :dance: :haha: (although I would prefer to see him on top place - cause in case something happens to Montoya, Alonso will again have top place in his hands... :evil: :wall: ).

    But...tomorrow is new we'll see what comes out of all this mess... :twisted: :wicked:
  8. yhng

    yhng Newbie

    Hmm...a one stopper or a two for kimi now? :think: But nvm, he'll climb up!
  9. Johnie

    Johnie Newbie


    1 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes Winner

    2 Fernando Alonso Renault +2.4 secs

    3 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault +17.9 secs

    4 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes +22.7 secs

    5 Jarno Trulli Toyota +33.7 secs

    6 Ralf Schumacher Toyota +43.9 secs

    7 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW +44.6 secs

    8 Jenson Button BAR-Honda +63.6 secs

    9 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas +75.4 secs

    10 Michael Schumacher Ferrari +96.0 secs

    11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas +1 Lap

    12 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari +1 Lap

    13 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing +1 Lap

    14 Mark Webber Williams-BMW +1 Lap

    15 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing +1 Lap

    16 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda +1 Lap

    17 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota +2 Lap

    18 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth +2 Lap

    19 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth +2 Lap

    20 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota +3 Lap

    So nothing new again...its just nice to see McLaren-Montoya at the top place...although Kimi would won for sure if he didnt have that tyre problem...and about Renault...lucky lucky again - thats all I can say... :p :twisted: :wicked:

    My opinion is...that McLaren will win Constructors championship...and Alonso will win Drivers championship (cause he is just too god dam* lucky this year - and some miracle would be needed for Kimi to take top spot at the end).... :mrgreen: :beer: :thumb:
  10. ZuePhok

    ZuePhok Just Started

    so unfortunate.....really dunno what else he could do..
  11. Bestia(ry)

    Bestia(ry) Mac'ster

    Well, maybe Alonso will have some deadly accident .. :twisted:
    Ok ok, that's nothing we should wish for (I have to say that, otherwise .. :haha: ^^).
  12. ZuePhok

    ZuePhok Just Started

    yeah alonso is creating his own luck...cant blame him too.. :mrgreen:
  13. Johnie

    Johnie Newbie

    Yes that would be one of the options Bestia(ry)....but we dont really want to see that to happen do we? :?
    Nahhhhhhh...let them compete fair...and who is better (or more lucky)...he shall win at the end... :mrgreen:
    But even if we look at worst case scenario...that Alonso wouldnt score even a single point more...Kimi would still need to work VERY HARD to win the championship! And with such bad luck as lately...that would be very hard to acchieve... :wicked:

    Let wait and see...I dont really care...cause our (Ferrari) championship is over for this year) year we'll be beack on top for sure...cause Montezemollo wont sleep (and neither would entire Ferrari team this winter), before they get back to top place where they belong... :clap: :dance: :wicked: :beer: :mrgreen: :haha: :thumb:
  14. Chai

    Chai Administrator Staff Member

    There's a limit "You have to be good to be lucky", but Alonso has way passed that. This has got to be the most "am kong" (can someone translate for me?) season I know, other than Alain Prost era in the old Renault during the early 80s where he kept retiring from the lead.
  15. Bestia(ry)

    Bestia(ry) Mac'ster

    Of course not.
    But like Chai said, too much luck tastes fishy.
    Dun get me wrong, I dun say Alonso is a bad driver and only cuz of his luck he's able to get the WC but when there's overall more luck than effective performance .. it feels somehow "wrong".
    Hungary .. no extra luck AND usual performance .. 11th.
  16. Johnie

    Johnie Newbie

    Exactly....he is too lucky...I bet if all others would drive same car...and have same luck....he would always be somewhere in the middle of a row...nothing special...I also dont say that he is a bad driver...but with his luck this year(and same car)...even Karthikeyan could win WC! :clap: :dance: :mrgreen: :haha:

    I would prefer to see that Kimi wins the WC....but like I said...with his "luck" he just cant compete with Alonso...but if only real racing knowledge would count....he would have WC already secured a way back (that is if MS wouldnt drive...cause otherwise...i.e...if MS drove Renault car this year(and with Alonso's luck)....he would be WC somewhere around the middle of season for sure!) :wicked: :twisted:

    But who cares...sometimes even luck let him win this year....but next year he surely wont....and the question is even when/if again.... :thumb:
  17. ZuePhok

    ZuePhok Just Started

    A1GP anyone?
  18. Johnie

    Johnie Newbie

    A1GP = Bright future... :clap: :dance: ;)

    Maybe they could have more horsepower....but ok...maybe future will bring that too... :cool:

    Looking forward to 25th Sept.2005! :wicked: ;)
  19. Chai

    Chai Administrator Staff Member

    Nah...A1GP is too 'identical' for my liking, that's what made F1 so special. They just need some proper rules...
  20. mahakanjus

    mahakanjus Newbie

    i would like to know where Alonso can get luck like that i sure could use some of it myself. anyway it all goes to show that McLaren has yet to sort out it's reliability issues and to finish first, first you have to finish.

    i would say he's driven very well for the year Alonso. Kimi has been absolutely stunning on pace with the mclaren in-freakin-credible mate.

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