I miss my old CRT!

Discussion in 'Chai' started by Chai, Feb 28, 2007.

  1. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    The point is only CRTs have refresh rates. If you see ghosting of the cursor with an LCD, then it has to be its response time.

    The Dell 20" LCD has about a 16ms response time. If that's even accurate, it's equivalent to about a 62.5Hz CRT refresh rate, when it comes to moving objects.

    As for 100Hz LCD TVs, it just means they are capable of displaying 100 frames per second. That requires a sufficently fast response time (at least 10 ms).
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2007
  2. ZuePhok

    ZuePhok Just Started

    urs is interlace. not progressive
  3. peaz

    peaz ARP Webmaster Staff Member

    Maybe you should get a high end LCD instead. Hahaha. The dell's panel isn't really that good anyway.
  4. Chai

    Chai Administrator Staff Member

    But the thing is Dell is using LG Philip panel, which is basically the same as all the high end LCDs. There's nothing you can do with the response time. Most high end ones concentrate on color accuracy. I'm probably going to buy a color calibrator to solve that problem.
  5. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Yup, nothing you can do about the response time. But the response time should improve over time.

    Alternatively, you can opt for faster panels like TN panels. They have something like response times of 4 ms to 8 ms, which gives you a CRT-like refresh rate of 125Hz to 250Hz.
  6. Chai

    Chai Administrator Staff Member

    Last edited: Mar 3, 2007
  7. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

  8. Chai

    Chai Administrator Staff Member

    There's a PC version.

    We can always share this among us. Each of us will only use it everytime we buy a new monitor, which is not a lot.
  9. PsYkHoTiK

    PsYkHoTiK Admin nerd

    There's one on sale somewhere (me thinks buy.com...) :mrgreen:
  10. Bestia(ry)

    Bestia(ry) Mac'ster

    If you can see ghosting on a 16ms-panel, your eyes
    or the panel itself must be "damaged" ... or even both.

    :mrgreen: ^^
  11. malmal

    malmal Newbie

    My main monitor is a 21" trinitron. Great for movies.
    It takes two people to move it any distance and it uses a lot of power.
    I got it for 25$ - everybody dropping their good crt's for lcd's.
    I have four monitors with 5 bnc's on the back- all cheap throwways.:)
  12. zy

    zy zynine.com Staff Member

    Newer CRT TVs were 100Hz. You wont see the flicker i believe.

    My sister's LCD TV is 120Hz samsung (auto motion)
    1st time looking at it, I was not used to the smoothing.
    They really made motion look smoother........... :nuts:
  13. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Yeah, 100Hz for TV will eliminate flicker - very important. Can't live without it once you tried it. :thumb:

    It's quite different for LCDs though - they don't have flicker. 120Hz for LCDs appear to generate extra frames to make the scene look smoother. But sometimes you want to retain the jerkiness of the scene (e.g. Saving Private Ryan), not have it turn into superfluid motion! :D
  14. Chai

    Chai Administrator Staff Member

    CRTs are still very good in response time, contrast, color. LCD only has a few advantages, size, lack of geometry distortion, and power consumption.
  15. Adrian Wong

    Adrian Wong Da Boss Staff Member

    Don't forget WEIGHT! :D

    You can break your back carrying a 34" CRT TV!! :haha:

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